Warning about the size of the NEXT message

Dear list members, Please be aware that the next message coming to the list has a Word document attachment. The attachment is rather large. It is not our practice to allow such huge messages to go to the list. We tried to find an alternative way of posting it; however, due to lack of time we did not succeed. It is important that this message reaches lir-wg before the RIPE meeting. The message is from Adrian Pauling, and the subject is "IP Adddressing & GPRS Mobile Technology deployment". Apologies once more for not being able to approve it to the list in any other way. Regards, Vesna Manojlovic RIPE NCC lists moderator

Hi, On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:52:25AM +0200, Vesna Manojlovic wrote:
It is not our practice to allow such huge messages to go to the list. We tried to find an alternative way of posting it; however, due to lack of time we did not succeed. It is important that this message reaches lir-wg before the RIPE meeting.
A sensible way would have been to put it up on the RIPE web server, and just send the URL to the list. Besides this, sending winword is impolite anyway. I can't read it (no windows machine here) without having to ask a collegue from a different department to print it for me. If you want to send formatted document, politeness would ask for PDF. regards, Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- SpaceNet GmbH Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299

On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 12:34:57PM +0200, Gert Doering, Netmaster wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 11:52:25AM +0200, Vesna Manojlovic wrote:
It is not our practice to allow such huge messages to go to the list. We tried to find an alternative way of posting it; however, due to lack of time we did not succeed. It is important that this message reaches lir-wg before the RIPE meeting.
A sensible way would have been to put it up on the RIPE web server, and just send the URL to the list.
Besides this, sending winword is impolite anyway. I can't read it (no windows machine here) without having to ask a collegue from a different department to print it for me. If you want to send formatted document, politeness would ask for PDF.
Or HTML which is readable by even more systems than PDF. It's usually a 'one-mouse-click' action to create a proper HTML file within this M$ word app and you're done. -- Ralf Gebhart Network Planning & Realization Cybernet AG Munich

Gert Doering, Netmaster wrote:
A sensible way would have been to put it up on the RIPE web server, and just send the URL to the list.
Besides this, sending winword is impolite anyway. I can't read it (no windows machine here) without having to ask a collegue from a different department to print it for me. If you want to send formatted document, politeness would ask for PDF.
I definately agree. Regards Torsten Blum -- Torsten Blum, Network Engineer Tel: +49.89.92699.0 Cable & Wireless ECRC GmbH Fax: +49.89.92699.225 Arabellastr. 17 E-Mail: tblum@ecrc.de D-81925 Munich, Germany

Vesna Manojlovic wrote:
Dear list members,
Please be aware that the next message coming to the list has a Word document attachment. The attachment is rather large.
It is not our practice to allow such huge messages to go to the list. We tried to find an alternative way of posting it; however, due to lack of time we did not succeed. It is important that this message reaches lir-wg before the RIPE meeting.
The message is from Adrian Pauling, and the subject is "IP Adddressing & GPRS Mobile Technology deployment".
Apologies once more for not being able to approve it to the list in any other way.
You may want to take a look at Adri van Os's "antiword" program (for Unix, RISC OS & BeOS) to convert Microsoft Word documents into somewhat more reasonable formats (text and Postscript) (see http://www.winfield.demon.nl/ for details). In this case it reduced the 600+ kbyte encoded attachment (461,312 byte Word document) to an 8,040 byte text file: 461312 May 15 13:48 Working_Party_Briefing_paper_GPRS_addressing.doc 8040 May 15 13:48 Working_Party_Briefing_paper_GPRS_addressing.txt I could really do without the extra, unnecessary ~600 kbytes in my mailbox... James -- James Aldridge Singel 540, 1017 AZ Amsterdam, NL Senior Network Engineer (R&D) Tel: +31 20 530 5327 KPNQwest GSM: +31 653 708 707

On Mon, 15 May 2000, James Aldridge wrote:
Vesna Manojlovic wrote:
Please be aware that the next message coming to the list has a Word document attachment. The attachment is rather large.
You may want to take a look at Adri van Os's "antiword" program (for Unix, RISC OS & BeOS) to convert Microsoft Word documents into somewhat more reasonable formats (text and Postscript) (see http://www.winfield.demon.nl/ for details). In this case it reduced the 600+ kbyte encoded attachment (461,312 byte Word document) to an 8,040 byte text file:
461312 May 15 13:48 Working_Party_Briefing_paper_GPRS_addressing.doc 8040 May 15 13:48 Working_Party_Briefing_paper_GPRS_addressing.txt
Warning: I tried that as well, then wondered what was in the other 450000 bytes, so I opened the document in Word. If you open the document in Word, you'll see a M$ Word icon indicating a second word document that is included in the first one. Clicking on the icon will open a second document with more text. Antiword doesn't recognize this, so the 8040 bytes is only part of the text. Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal@ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.535-4414, Fax -4445 1016 AB Amsterdam Home: +31.20.4195305 The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A man can take a train and never reach his destination. (Kerouac, well before RFC2780).
participants (6)
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Gert Doering, Netmaster
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Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
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James Aldridge
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Ralf Gebhart
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Torsten Blum
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Vesna Manojlovic