Hi, you'll see the crippled data if you would look at the person-a nd role-handles. Just comapre whois -h whois.ripe.net NOC54-RIPE with whois -h whois.denic.de NOC54-RIPE. The changes at the interface: i dont think of the whois-output here, what is important is the change in update/create/delete-procedure. Gruss Henning Brauer Hostmaster BSWS ------------------------------------------------ BS Web Services Roedingsmarkt 14 20459 Hamburg Germany info@bsmail.de www.bsws.de fon: +49 40 3750357-0 fax: +49 40 3750357-5 PLEASE USE EMAIL WHERE POSSIBLE Nils Jeppe <nils@work.de To: henning.brauer@bsmail.de > cc: info@denic.de, lir-wg@ripe.net, NCC Network Coordination Center <ncc@mediascape.de>, owner-loca-ir@ripe.net 30.06.00 Subject: Re: AW: AW: Deletion of .de domain objects 11:52 On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 henning.brauer@bsmail.de wrote:

Once again: We are not against moving domain-objects out of the Ripe-Db, we could even live with the persons and roles in a DENIC-Database.

That is your right, however, it won't change a thing. ;-)

But the way DENIC is doing the move, wirh cripled testing data in production, is not acceptable. The plan to let only members do changes is not acceptable.

Where do you see crippled data in denic's db? Report it to them as a bug. When I look at our own main domain (work.de) the only thing I see is a pretty ugly "changed" line, but that is hardly critcal.

Nobody would say anything against moving all the stuff to the DENIC db if the interfaces won't change too much.

The way this is done now means really hard life for small providers in

The interface didn't change a lot, the output of the whois db is pretty much the same as with ripe db. the

future and tons of work (senseless work) now.

I completely fail to see the problem. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - n@work Internet Informationssysteme GmbH Tel +49 40 23880900 Spaldingstrasse 160d Fax +49 40 23880929 20097 Hamburg, Germany http://www.work.de/