Re: Class C subnetting and Novell TCP/IP

Guys, I just got this from one of our Novell experts (we have a group of people working in this area). Sounds like Novell have got ot right, at least in the code. May be a documentation problem, I guess, if their customers are not understanding... Anyhow, I suggest that: (a) Keith rejects the reason, saying that it's understood that Novell do support this subnetting.... (b) if said customers persist perhaps Daniel could pursue this with his Novell contact to get a definitive statement? Bob ----- Begin Included Message -----

Bob/Andrew,
From: "Andrew Gregg" <DREW@uk.ac.ulst.infc.CAUSEWAY> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:29:25 GMT Subject: Re: Class C subnetting and Novell TCP/IP Reply-To: A.Gregg@uk.ac.ulst
Novell Fileserver routing DOES support class C subnetting. Until this earlier this year we had a Novell Fileserver routing between a subnetted class C address...
Class C subnetting using novell netware requires at least 2 bits mask bits in the class to allow for subnetworking.
therefore our mask was FF.FF.FF.C0 and our IP numbers were assigned... nnn.nnn.nnn.128 to 190 for one sub net and 65-126 for the other.
Thanks - this is exactly what I was looking for. Can I presume on your helpfulness one more bit, and ask if there are any particular version/revision levels this is available under, just in case they are running old software ? It would also be nice to get the definitive answer on the LAN Workplace product too, though if that is broken I guess proxy ARP is a possibility.
Anyhow, I suggest that:
(a) Keith rejects the reason, saying that it's understood that Novell do support this subnetting....
(b) if said customers persist perhaps Daniel could pursue this with his Novell contact to get a definitive statement?
Bob
Sounds fine to me. Thanks to everyone who responded, Keith

bob@informatics.rutherford.ac.uk writes:
Anyhow, I suggest that:
(a) Keith rejects the reason, saying that it's understood that Novell do support this subnetting....
(b) if said customers persist perhaps Daniel could pursue this with his Novell contact to get a definitive statement?
The customer's answer notwithstanding I have already started on b). Daniel

In <9403230932.AA00251@buche>, <bob@informatics.rutherford.ac.uk> wrote:
To all those that replied: many thanks, we seem to have unanimous agreement that subnetting on any (legal) mask is indeed possible, and that perhaps it's more a documentation/education problem.
Keith's taking this back to those customers of his who started this particular hare running.
Well, I just have, and they were indeed trying to break the subnetting rules for Class Cs, this was their problem. Suddenly their existing allocation became enough. Thanks to everyone for clearing this up, particulary the JNT for usefully re-circulating my request, and Andrew Gregg at University of Ulster for hard exerience. In <9403221550.AA09947@reif.ripe.net>, <Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net> wrote:
bob@informatics.rutherford.ac.uk writes:
(b) if said customers persist perhaps Daniel could pursue this with his Novell contact to get a definitive statement?
The customer's answer notwithstanding I have already started on b).
My apologies for casting aspersions at Novell - if Daniel does have a word with them, it should probably be to the effect their documentation needs to be idiot-proofed a bit better. Keith (I have a short one-page guide which describes all the legal subnetting options for Class Cs that we give to customers. If there was interest, it might be a good idea to expand this to include the valid host address ranges associated with each mask, and make it available.)

Keith Mitchell wrote:
(I have a short one-page guide which describes all the legal subnetting options for Class Cs that we give to customers. If there was interest, it might be a good idea to expand this to include the valid host address ranges associated with each mask, and make it available.)
Good idea. Regard, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / email: nipper@xlink.net NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH \/ phone: +49 721 9652 0 Geschaeftsbereich XLINK /\ LINK fax: +49 721 9652 210 Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3 /_______ D-76131 Karlsruhe, Germany
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