On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Javier Llopis wrote:

The only legal loophole would be if ISPs put a disuasive price for spamming practices in their service contract. A price so high that no spammer would pay. Then spammers would be invoiced, and the invoice would become unpaid after the invoice due date.

thats the end of idea... 'black books' shouldn't be accessible by everyone. Rules, only rules ( what is spam, what u can do, what is 'illegal' ) should be published. Spammer can pay i dont know ... maybe in ripe ... for example . standard fee can be for example 1000$ for documented. all this is ..maybe... maybe... its beginning of good idea. i know that logs are not a proof. but logs from hundred servers which were 'attacked' with SPAM - it can be base to adding such a company to 'black list'. Such a list should be accessible only by ISP.

Publishing a list of people who won't pay you is not illegal as long as the debt is well documented (with the invoice) nor is denying service because of being on that list. (We could have legal problems anyway, but the case would be harder for the spammer) And the only way out of the list would be paying the bill.

thats right. MJ ___________________________________________________________________________ Miroslaw.Jaworski@ikp.com.pl (Psyborg) MJ102-RIPE ATM S.A. - IKP division WAN/UNIX adm