Hello, I am currently doing some work for a small ISP with a fair number of clients, that wants to get a sub-allocation (in accordance with the new sub-allocations policy). We are going to request a /20 allocation from our primary uplink. However, we may have difficulties in showing usage for a /20 assignment for ourselves and our current customers (we're not far from it, though), but we need this allocation to deal with near-future customers. We are also going to request an AS in order to be properly multi-homed, which means we need the /20 right away to avoid prefix filters. We could of course, in accordance with the RIPE community's "slow-start" mechanism, start with a smaller allocation, or even just request assignments for ourselves, our customers, and then new customers as we go along, but this would mean lots of CIDR blocks, instead of just one /20. We are also going to request an AS in order to be properly multi-homed, due to prefix filters, having many small blocks is not an option. Becoming a LIR is not an option just now, due to various financial and political reasons. Now, my question to the list is, when will the sub-allocation policy be operational, and how will one request such an allocation? Presumably, RIPE will provide a sample allocation request form, any idea when? Any ideas on how to do this without a sub-allocation? Any way for our uplink to "reserve" a /20, which would then origin from our AS, and then assign chunks of it to us as we go along, maybe? Our uplink's AW is /24, and they don't have any room within their current allocations to give us a /20, so they would have to request this specifically from RIPE. Thanks in advance for any comments and/or suggestions. -- Kristófer Sigurðsson