Tanya, The RIPE NCC maintains all the allocations it makes as it is responsible for them. We expect most LIRs will want to maintain all their assignments for the same reason. We agree that it is desirable for LIRs to be able to control the contact information in their allocation inetnum objects as well as the mainatiners used for hierarchical authorisation. As Joao wrote a few days ago, we want to provide the RIPE NCC membership with ways of accessing and modifying their own data using currently avaiable technologies such as a secure web site. These systems are being developed at the moment. As Karsten points out, there is no easy way to add mnt-routes attributes to inetnum objects for allocations where the LIR's maintainer is not already referenced as a mnt-lower. Of course, where LIRs already have role objects referenced they can update the contacts in the role and have no need to contact RIPE NCC. The new systems we are developing are one way we intend to reduce the workload carried out by the Registration Services department and to help provide a speedier service to our customers. Regards, -- leo vegoda RIPE NCC