Hi, On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 01:56:58PM +0200, Christian Rasmussen wrote:
Of course, the maximum assignment that any Sub-LIR does has to be inside the AW of the LIR - otherwise the LIR cannot approve it themselves or delegate responsibility, but has to go to RIPE for this assignment - whoever is requesting it.
I agree with Gert, its the LIRs responsibility that the sub-LIR acts appropriately.
I don't think that the LIR's AW is relevant for the sub-LIR, all assignments made by the sub-LIR has to be approved by the LIR, if the assignment is within the LIR's AW then there is no problem, if not, the LIR has to ask Ripe as with any other assignment larger than AW.
Actually, one of the points about this whole thing is that the Sub-LIR *is* permitted to do their own assignments - up to a maximum size that has to be negotiated between Sub-LIR and LIR (and the maximum size must not exceed the LIR's own AW, of course). That way, the Sub-LIR can do all the "regular" stuff completely on their own. If a "bigger" request comes in, the Sub-LIR forwards it to the LIR, and for a "very big" request, the LIR forwards to the RIR. Nevertheless: all this would be something optional. If a LIR does not *want* their Sub-LIR to have their own "Sub-AW", they do not *have* to give them one (so they would have to forward all requests to the LIR). Also, of course, the LIR does not *have* to do Sub-Allocations. This is strictly an option for LIRs that have "experienced resellers" (for example) that can be trusted to understand and follow the rules. It is expected that many LIRs will not ever need this. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 46812 (46611) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299