Hi, On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:44:45PM -0000, Peter Galbavy wrote:
Activities of the RIPE NCC, including its operation and yearly fee structure, are approved by the membership as proposed in the annual RIPE NCC Activity Plan. The RIPE NCC Activity Plan is formed on input from the RIPE community and users of RIPE NCC services.
you forgot to add "... and can be read in a locked filing cabinet in the basement, stored in a disused lavoratory marked beware of the leopard." Or whatever the full quote is.
But that's not true in this case. The proposed activity plan was announced *right not this list*, and in good time to add comments and eventually make people vote on the AGM against it. [..]
But the costs are increasing ? No, that's not right. Less 'customers', less 'costs'. A drop in membership results in a 50% increase in costs ? I charge that there must be some gross inefficiencies, bad management practicies and even potentially some nest-feathering going on.
While I can understand your anger - why don't you just go and *read* the RIPE document with all the numbers in it? This year there was a net *loss*, as the "new members" rate was far lower than planned - and much of the budget (like RIPE training courses) is planned to be paid from thoese fees.
I *know* I am out of touch, I do not have the time or money to attend ever broom-cupboard meeting held by RIPE. Is there an independent board that is charged with overseeing that money is not wasted in lean years ?
That would be the RIPE board. [..]
For example, how do we seperate the entitities that are RIPE and RIPE-NCC ?
Ummm. They are separate. RIPE is "the community". The RIPE NCC is the body that does the work for us, and is paid for doing that. They do what *we* put in their activity plan. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 50279 (49875) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299