Hi A question I need to change the "Origin" entry on a /20 route object. This route is to be advertised via a different upstream provider, from a different AS number. The upstream provider will not advertise the route "until RIPE have been informed". I cannot change the route object entry. I get the following "Error: Hierarchical authorisation failed, request forwarded to maintainer" and I get the request forwarded to me. The mnt-by on the route object is not the problem - I can update other objects with that mnt-by object and I can change the "notify" entry on my route object. Therefore the error must be because of the mnt-by entry within the "receiving" AS number. (which I am not authorised to update) but I don't understand how. Is this the correct diagnosis? and is there something else I should be doing? I could ask RIPE hostmaster to make the changes but the ticketing system could take a couple of weeks. I could ask the new upstream AS owner to add me to their mnt-by entry but I am nothing to do with them. All suggestions gratefully received. kevin