Stephen,
I think (personally, and also hope that RIPE community think) that it's pretty much in line with the idea of a community organization to propose such training...
I agree but we do not foot the bill, because if thats the case where does it stop as i feel i would like a free course in XML, bluetooth, c++, oracle, sybase, apache, tomcatand the list goes on. If this is whats needed then another organisation needs to be created to meet this need, the NCC is our RIR not our free internet education tool.
XML, bluetooth and others can all be independently deployed by organizations. No coordination is needed and if one of them makes a mistake during deployment, all they do is to hurt themselves. This is NOT the case for security technology for the infrastructure structure. Here a certain amount of coordination is needed and one person mis-configuring his part can break the entire chain. The goal of the DISI project is to do this coordination as well as to make sure that the participating organizations have the technical knowledge in house. The DNSSEC courses are organized to accomplish the latter.
No such agreement was made in RIPE region if it was it was not voiced to the comunity at large.
I like to point out that the DISI project was first presented to the community at RIPE37 (Sept'2000) and has always been mentioned at the plenary since then. Courses were mentioned as part of the project from the beginning. I have attended all those meetings but, until today, only had positive feedback on this idea. The project is also mentioned in the activity plans for 2001 and 2002 and those have been explictly approved by the membership. So, while you are certainly entitled to your opinion that the RIPE NCC should not do this project, I don't think that it is fair to say that the RIPE NCC is using membership money to organize courses for its members without asking them first. Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal@ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That problem that we weren't having yesterday, is it better? (Big ISP NOC) NOTE: My email address (and a hole in our mailing list software) is being abused by a spammer. We are working on fixing this hole and tracking the spammer down. If you receive mail from "henk@ripe.net" that is obviously spam, please send me a copy of the mail including ALL headers. I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused by this.