On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 00:31:39 +0200 Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote: (..snip..)
Jan was complaining that it's too expensive to become a LIR. I put that cost into relation to the cost people have to pay anyway if they want to do *proper* multihoming, or put more precisely, be part of the default-free zone. And compared to that cost, becoming a LIR should be the least of your worries.
Well. Forcing PI owners to get involved within the RIPE would help all. Even sharing their experience (from business view) and teaching them (through ripe meetings & courses etc) would help everybody. And a "PI LIR" (NOT enterprise LIR) would bring some money back to RIPE helping the community as a whole.
I do not advocate that everybody that wants to have globally visible address space become a LIR. It is one way, for ISPs it's a good way (because it means you can handle address requirements of your customers in a practical and direct way), but for other entities it might be the wrong way. But *costs* are not a good criterium to decide that.
ACK, but it would solve a lot of problems. Solutions are not always good for all, but for most of all. Gerd, i think we should work more close together on this issue to address some of the issues as a draft to ripe. --jan -- Jan-Ahrent Czmok http://www.lambda-solutions.de Technical Advisor ISP Hofdcker Str. 14, 65207 Wiesbaden Tel. +49-(0)-174-3074404