Dear Sirs, According to me It is better to assign to any company asking a space in your server farm a little pool of addresses, this because it happend that spam complaints or such stuff arrived to the hostmaster of the server farm instead to the owner of the server. On second hand, if we behave like this, there's always the possibility to know who is the user of these addresses consulting the RIPE database. Alessandro Pelosi Swisscom Spa -----Messaggio originale----- Da: adrian.pauling@bt.com [mailto:adrian.pauling@bt.com] Inviato: martedì 1 agosto 2000 11.51 A: hostmaster@ripe.net; lir-wg@ripe.net Cc: kevin.bates@bt.com; mark.glover@bt.com Oggetto: X-NCC RegID: UK.BTENT - Enterprise Registry Address Assignment Po licy Dear Hostmasters / LIRwg, I seek clarification on policy with respect to Enterprise Registry assignments, and have two fundamental areas for debate. Area 1: Enterprise vs. ISP LIR Assignment for non-ISP LIR Revenue Generation As an Enterprise Registry, should we be assigning IP addresses to Web Server Farms, which are part of the owning Corporate but not part of the ISP operation (ISP LIR, not the associated Enterprise LIR) ? At the IP level, web hosting server farm group are not revenue generating for the ISP operation, and they do not resell IP services as they only host web pages. They are revenue generating for the Corporate though. I believe they're paying commercial public rates to the ISP operation for their Internet connection. Initially the ISP LIR rejected an assignment request as the web hosting operation seems to be from the Corporate. Hence, they're requesting an assignment from the Enterprise LIR. The reverseDNS for the Enterprise is operated independently of the ISP operation. Should an Enterprise Registry assign the addresses? Area 2: Enterprise vs. ISP LIR Assignments for Corporate Pilots and Trials As the Enterprise LIR, we are often asked to assign addresses for pilots & trials of new technologies from teams within the Corporate Group. Such pilots and trials often become commercial revenue generating upon successful completion. At this stage the Enterprise address space ends up on a commercial service. Should the commercial service re-address upon successful completion ( causing operational costs and product launch difficulties ) using assignments from the ISP LIR? Do we transfer IP assignments from Enterprise LIR to ISP LIR registries? Regards, Adrian F Pauling :-)NEL2C Internet Protocol Manager acd Information Systems Engineering AFP1-RIPE / AFP-ARIN / AFP25-InterNIC * adrian.pauling@bt.com * +44 19 2685 1992 / +44 78 0290 4877 British Telecommunications plc Registered Office 81 Newgate Street London EC1A 7AJ Registered in England no 1800000