Hmm, if this is right, I think we should change policy. If I remember right this whole thing comes from the "Have you concidered using private address space" which back when it was formulated in the addressing form was before NAT was a wide spread technology. Personaly I feel it is a pity that this has turned into a "please use NAT". Therefore, I am proposing to change this policy into: - stop asking this question - stop promoting NAT Any views on this ? Hans Petter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com> To: <lir-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: neutrality and nat | i just watched a ripe presentation which claimed to be technology neutral, | yet advised isps to use nats without telling how they break applications, | blah blah blah. this is not neutral, and is, imiho, really bad advice to | give to innocent people. is this ripe or lir policy? | | randy |