I'm aware, like many other people, that RIPE NCC is not an academic institution any more. Why, however, to change things that worked so fine for years? Let's discuss!
there is a difference between open discussion and wild american usenet style flaming and hysteria. i look to ripe members for the former, not the latter.
randy
Me too! Just kidding. :) To continue the discussion about discussing: Personally I think that the, acting as RIPE is still academic, thing is very good. Not only for this specific matter but also in many more ways. In the half year that I've been doing RIPE stuff overhere accountmanagers have asked me a couple of times if we couldn't sue RIPE for not giving address space directly when requested. A 141 would have to pass through our legal department as well as RIPE NCC's and penalties would have to be paid whenever one of the parties doesn't make up to the contract. Just think of the consequenses it would have. If someone has a problem with discussions like these I don't think he or she understands the unique environment we have here. Only the really large companies would benefit from a more commercial kind of RIPE NCC. If you do'nt agree with me, you are probably, or should consider, working for one of those companies. :) Maybe it is because I first meet the internet at a university I feel this way and my guess is that those opposed to an academic approach have a different background. Greetings, Martin -- Tin will not rust or give in but melts directly when heated =B-)