Daniel, Yes, we see serious problems with your proposal to be implemented in Ukraine. I understand and recognize your reasons, and I beleive that they are valid for most European countries, however, I am not that sure they do apply to Ukraine. The problem in Ukraine is there is almost no service providers here in European meaning of this word. The networking is still underdeveloped due to poor economy of transition period. Ukrainian service providers (except for one recent example) are not able to contribute to RIPE activities. Therefore, UA LR registry is the only source for address space in this country. We try to run the registry in the way providing smooth transition to aggregate routing once it will be implemented at external links. The consequense of the proposed measures for UA will be that new users will have to apply directly to RIPE for address space which is probably not the goal. Otherwise, they will discrimination because of difficulties with allocation of the address space they request. I would like to suggest a differentiated approach to LRs in different countries. Perhaps, by the end of the year we shall be able to find another solution. Hope to hear from you more, Alexander
Last-Resort local IRs have been established to serve end-users who do not have access to another local IR either because they do not connect to the Internet yet or because Internet service providers were not yet providing registry services.
Recently the introduction of route aggregation (CIDR) and the proliferation of local IRs operated by service providers greatly reduce the usefulness of Last-Restort local IRs. Even worse, the routing of non-aggregatable address space negatively impacts the Internet routing system. Such space either is or shortly will be less then useful for the end-user because they have to renumber when connecting. Also there is now private address space available for use of end-users who want address space that is guaranteed not to be used by another end-user on the Internet.
Additionally the Last-Resort registries form an anomaly in the RIPE NCC charging system, because they do not contribute to NCC funding while using NCC resources.
Consequently it has been proposed several times already to close down the Last-Resort registries. I think it is now time to finally take such a step with a timeframe of end Q3/95 or at the end of the year.
Are there any serious problems with this step?
Daniel
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