Miroslaw.Jaworski wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
and what to do ? tell customers "sorry u generate spam, we don't want u on our server" ?
Yes.
i want to :) but i work for ISP :)
OK, but a couple hours later he will get new accounts from other ISP. If he hits you, you tell that ISP: "stop this customer please", if they don't you blackhole their route.
then many customers are wining "Why can't I.... ??!!Why did You ??!! What with my e-mail ???!!".... :(
YES, that's what this entire discussion is about. yes. yes.
Wow.. triple YES for me :) like in voting couple years ago in my country :)
so... there is an idea. there is an beginning of solution.. who can accept it ? maybe we can try to create such a document which should be signed by every existing and every new ISP ?
Interestingly enough, I reported to a major ISP recently (no names) a considerable problem with a spammer hijacking one of our machines. Traces showedup the originating machine, one on their lines a few domain levels down, and asked them to do something about it, or we would have to, in a way which would affect all their traffic to us. Their response was "Thank you for your interest, but this is not our problem. We rely on our client's discression for their correct use of the internet". So, who's gonna sign this lovely document? Aleks With kind regards Aleksandr Wilansky; The comments in the above mail are my own, and in no way reflect company policy........ === ____ === hostmaster@eunet.ch === / / / ___ ___ _/_ === EUnet AG === /---- / / / / /___/ / === Zweierstrasse 35 === /____ /___/ / / /___ / === CH-8004 Zuerich ===== ===== Tel. +41 1 298 60 30 ===== Connecting Europe since 1982 ===== Fax +41 1 291 46 42 "In a world without fences, who needs Gates?"