Hi, On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 12:59:14PM -0700, auto347221@hushmail.com wrote:
Dear working Group, Now that we have a new interim policy in place, an important policy question comes up: How can the RIPE NCC get IP addresses for their services ?
Either they qualify trough the Interim policy
or they need to go to their upstream.
what does it matter? Either way the RIPE NCC is going to be the ones making the final decision, be it a hostmaster or one of their tech staff....
Actually, they are NOT. *We*, as the community, have made the current IPv6 allocation policy. The NCC people have been helpful in organizing and documenting, but have refrained from pushing in any specific direction concerning the policy. As for the original question: I have discussed various options with Joao on the last RIPE meeting, and the outcome of this (which was also an opinion-forming process for myself) was that "take one /48 and announce that all over the place" is among current options the best one. The advantage of this approach is that: - we need no special policy for the NCC "and everybody else who is special" - we do not need to create PI legacy objects, or any other kind of "I get an allocation even if I do not assign to end users" networks - the effect on the routing table is the same for whatever kind of thing they are going to announce, but with this approach, if the /48 is filtered somewhere, the aggregate will provide "fallback", and thus better resilience. As for "which upstream to go to" - I think that with some careful planning in advance (insert proper macros in all configuration files that contain explicit IPv6 addresses, etc.) renumbering of a fairly flat IPv6 network *is* much easier than for IPv4, due to the fact that one can seamlessly add a second prefix and take away the first one some time later - with v4, this usually requires lots of rebooting and thus downtime. So based on this, I'd say "pick an upstream that isn't likely to go bankrupt any time soon, and seems to provide a reliable network, and if it turns out that they are not good enough, change to a different /48" (and be prepared to do so - by good documentation and pre-planning). [Yes, Randy, Nigel, and others - we all seem to agree, which is really unusual. Must be something wrong with this idea.] Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 45077 (47584) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299