Sorry Andre but I'm with Peter on this one. The RIPE fees simply don't add up, its an expensive organisation and it needs to trim a lot of the fat out of it. See Peters message on the tickets, if it really costs that much then we have a severe problem, some people don't even pay that much money for a years worth of DSL access. Regards, Neil.
-----Original Message----- From: lir-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:lir-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Andre Oppermann Sent: 25 November 2002 17:43 To: Peter Galbavy Cc: Gert Doering; Axel Pawlik; Local IR Working Group Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Peter Galbavy wrote:
Those documents are written in the best
EU-bureaucrating-English that
money can't sell. Most stuff I see go past as announcements has me asleep before the first paragraph. I have tried to (quickly) read the 2003 budget statement. Makes no sense as there is not enough information there for anyone to make a value judgement. The document says 'X' and not 'X because'.
What I cannot understand - sorry, it makes no sense - is why the budget requires new members ? Why is the budget not growth/shrinkage neutral ? New members should pay for their own 'new' requirements through the set-up fee. Again, sorry to make accusations, but whoever created a non-growth neutral budget is NOT doing their job right.
Peter,
why don't you go to your CFO or accountant and let them interpret the budget for you? You don't seem to have any clue how budgeting and business plans work. I think everyone on this list would be very grateful if you'd stop ranting until you understand economics 101.
Cheers -- Andre
That would be the RIPE board.
OK. I remember something about elections, but will any board members here please speak up ? In your opinion is the 2003 budget correct ? Any doubts ? If you have no doubts, then I strongly suggest that you are not doing the right thing...
Ummm. They are separate. RIPE is "the community". The RIPE NCC is the body that does the work for us, and is paid for doing that. They do what *we* put in their activity plan.
I don't remember asking to be RIPE. I am a paying for the functions of the RIPE-NCC. I don't want any other services, research, funded testing or anything. What I (and many others) want is a registration service that is policy neutral because it is 'fair'. Anything else is just profiteering.
Peter