Hello... first of all, i want to mention, that we are not involved in any internet business in russia. We dont know how assigns domains, who is responsible for what etc.. But all statements on this list seem to me like a political problem, but because all know that this isnt a good reason to split RIPE, some are trying to find other arguments... We (de.seicom) dont consider language problems or time-zones justify to establish a new RIPE If we start this, some other countries will apply for a (X)RIPE with the same reason... BTW: Germany is raising and it would be much more easier to talk with a LIR in Germany in german language.. Frankfurt would be real central for germany, we have a good mc Donalds in the train station... I hope this are good reasons for establishing GRIPE in Germany (german Ripe). *sigh* ok nice joke... But please find real and good reasons why a new RIPE should be established in Moscow or somewhere else... I am boring to see all this boring mailings on this list. And if the russian LIR are not able to communicate in english language with the RIPE NCC in Amsterdam, and there are so much LIR from Russia, a hostmaster with the ability to speak russian should work in Amsterdam..:-) But i expect, that a fundamental knowledge of the english language is essential for internet business, whether you are from germany, france, spain, russia or from any other country... Winni --- Winfried Haug | SEICOM.DE & SCHWABEN.DE | Tel. +49 7121 9770- 0 Laiblinsplatz 12 | Internet+ISDN access & consulting | Fax. +49 7121 9770-19 72793 Pfullingen | Access in STGT + RT + TUE + BB + LB | Rack +49 7127 989-X haug@schwaben.net| 150*ISDN (64kb/X.75) / 100 * K56flex | Rack +49 711 9675-X haug@seicom.net |SAP-OSS * FTP * TELNET * NETNEWS * IRC | Rack +49 7121 709-X * 10 MBit DE-CIX * 2 MBit INXS * 3 MBit ecrc/ebone * 2 Mbit Belwue * 2 Mbit WIN