Dear Bogdan, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The RIPE NCC has an auditing service that we provide to the community. The auditing activity was set in place to promote the consistent and fair application of IP Address policies. The activity is focused around helping the LIRs to understand and follow the correct policies and procedures. The RIPE NCC will first discuss the issue with the LIR involved and outline the correct policies and procedure. Most audits are done by random selection, but there is also the possibility of requesting an audit. LIRs can approach the RIPE NCC if they suspect that another LIR is violating the address policies set in place by the Internet community. For more information about the Audit Activity, please refer to: http://www.ripe.net/rs/audit/ and RIPE Document: "RIPE NCC Consistency and Auditing Activity" at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/auditing.html As you already know, IP Addresses are not to be considered property as stated in RIPE Document:" Charging by Local Internet Registries": http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-152.html Again, thank you for bringing this to our attention. The RIPE NCC will look into the matter and contact the LIR in question. For any other issues of this kind, please write to <lir-help@ripe.net> . Kind regards, Nurani -- +------------------------------------+ | Nurani Nimpuno | | Internet Address Policy Manager | | RIPE Network Co-ordination Centre | | http://www.ripe.net | +------------------------------------+ Bogdan Surdu <tim@rdsnet.ro> writes: * * Hi, * * I'm working for a ISP in Romania which is also a LIR. The biggest LIR in * Romania RNC (ro.rnc) received a /15 PA block from RIPE last month. They * are selling prefixes (yes selling, they charge different amounts for differe * nt * space: $50 for a /28 up to $230 for a /24) to almost anyone who wants IPs, * even they are not connected to RNC. Basically they sell the PA space as * PI, since they are not advertising the PA block and the prefixes are * announced in Internet by other ISPs. * 80.96/15 is not the only block sold as PI space, they have many PA * blocks distributed to customers connected to other ISPs (for example our * customers have about 60 * /24 prefixes from 217.156/17 PA block allocated * to RNC). * What can we do to stop this practice? * * * inetnum: 80.96.0.0 - 80.97.255.255 * netname: RO-RNC-20010705 * descr: National Institute for R|&D in Informatics * descr: Provider Local Registry * country: RO * admin-c: ES16 * tech-c: CH7396-RIPE * status: ALLOCATED PA * mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT * mnt-lower: AS3233-MNT * mnt-routes: AS3233-MNT * changed: hostmaster@ripe.net 20010705 * source: RIPE * * * -- * Bogdan Surdu * * Romania Data Systems S.A. * E-mail: tim@rdsnet.ro * Tel: +40 1 30 10 850 * Fax: +40 1 30 10 851 * * ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- * Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If * you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for * delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this * message to anyone. In such a case, you should destroy this message and * kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. * * *