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Re: automatic DB cleanup proposal
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 09 Oct '01

09 Oct '01

Dear George, >I am worried that there may be *external* referencees to objects, and while >we have no 'contractual' obligation it might not be nice to do this >to people without some engagement but I expect most people would welcome >losing a path to spam. without going into any detail of the proposal itself, I perceive the fact that there are external references (allowed) _without "consent" and without documentation_ a major flaw in the architecture. In fact, there are mechanisms available already (at least in the RIPE DB-SW V2.x and V3.x) that allow us to deal with that requirement: maintainer objects. >As to automatic sweeping, I think there are problems with link counting >which are similar to those we've faced in discussing cross-database linkage >and references. Too many risks of the link count getting out of whack. Fair enough, a very valid concern! But I think the proposal is trying to describe the "user view" and the "abstract behaviour". >I think you could use it as a guide to a sweep, but not as a determinant >without some review and other checks. Eg to trigger more exhaustive checks >to see if there are are references in twisty ways. I agree. >cheers > -George Cheers, and thanks for partcipating in this discussion! Wilfried.

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Action list after RIPE 40
by Hans Petter Holen 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

35.4 NCC PGP Key exchange procedure Low prio 35.5 NCC Implement PGP for hm Low prio 36.5 Chair Assignment window applied on infrastructure New Policy 36.7 NCC Keep lir-wg updated on pre RIR address space changes Plenary presentation 38.2 NCC Implement changes to the form while taking into account the comments from the WG Pending 185 revision 38.3 WG Reopen policy discussion - do we need a major revision of RIPE 185 Ongoing 38.4 AC Consider how to coordinate Address prediction work Work launced 38.5 NCC Implement 34.6 LIR-ALLOCATED 38.6 HPH (NCC) Propose PI policy to the WG Ongoing 39.2 NCC Suggest procedure and possible policy changes DONE 39.4 Chairs Define & divide work 39.5 Chairs Beta test 6 weeks deadline for proposals Move to 2nd beta 40.1 NCC/ET RIPE 185 2nd draft 40.2 WG Further discuss MIR/SUB-LIR 40.2 NCC Implement new AW policy 40.3 WG Further discuss possible policy change for PI 40.4 RB AC Election Done 40.5 WG Join RFC2050 mailinglist to give input to revision 40.6 RIRs Produce drafts to replace 2050 for discussion by wg 40.7 RIRs Produce interim policy draft with the help of Arano-san & Mr Bush within 2 weeks 40.8 WG Further discuss final IPv6 policy 40.9 RIRs Set up global IPv6 policy list

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My slides available on the WWW
by Dave Pratt 03 Oct '01

03 Oct '01

Hiya Folks, The slides for the presentation I gave this afternoon are available at: http://www.djp.net/ipv6/pr/ Cheers Dave

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Revision of IPv4 policy draft document
by Nurani Nimpuno 03 Oct '01

03 Oct '01

Dear all, To facilitate the revision of the IPv4 policy draft document, the following mailing list has been set up: <ripe-185bis(a)ripe.net> is a mailing list set up for the participants of the editorial committee of this document, but is also a publicly open mailing list, archived at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail-archives/ripe-185bis/index.html (Available from the LIR-WG website: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/lir/index.html) If you wish to subscribe to this mailing list, please send a mail to <majordomo(a)ripe.net> with "subscribe ripe-185(a)ripe.net" (without quotation marks) in the body of the message. Additionally, a physical meeting will made possible this evening in Prague for any parties interested in participating in the editorial committee. It will take place after (during? :) the RIPE Meeting social event at the Marriott hotel in Prague. A meeting room "Bohemia" is reserved for discussing this document and to agree on the coming steps in the revision process. - All interested parties are welcome to bring their drinks from the social with them. :-) Kind regards, Nurani Nimpuno RIPE NCC

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Chairing LIR-WG Wednesday 3 October
by Denesh Bhabuta 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

Dear members I have been informed by Mirjam that Hans Petter is unlikely to make it to the RIPE meeting this time due to things out of his control (Swiss Air, etc) In addition, James Aldridge is not here. It is thus very likely that I will be helping by chairing the meeting tomorrow. If you have any issues you wish me to be aware of, or wish to discuss anything, please do not hesitate to approach me - and in case you do not know what I look like: http://photos.jml.net/photo.php?id=37633 Regards Denesh -- Denesh Bhabuta

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Updated agendas and times of the joint policy sessions
by David Kessens 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

Hi, The meeting schedule indicates that the joint lir/ipv6 wg session is starting at 14:00, wednesday, October 3rd. However, as mentioned earlier in the agenda itself, the joint lir/ipv6 session will start at 16:00 and the lir wg will use the the time from 14:00 - 15:30. Also, the agenda has been modified slightly. The new ipv6 draft policy document is published now and Mirjam will give an outline presentation regarding the new draft. I hope this helps, David K. --- Agenda for the IPv6/lir joint session RIPE40, Prague Wednesday October 3rd, 2001, 16:00 - 17:30 Topic: Revision of the general ipv6 allocation guidelines Materials to read: - ripe-196: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv6policy.html - http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html - http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-39/presentations/RIPE39-IPv6… A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Proposal for the next version of the policy http://www.djp.net/ipv6/proposal.html (Dave Pratt) D. RIR IPv6 Address Policy Proposal - Outline (Mirjam) - Results of the proposal discussion at the last APNIC meeting Takashi Arano (JPNIC/Asia Global Crossing) Gerard Ross (APNIC) E. Discussion Z. AOB ------------------------- Agenda for the IPv6/lir/eix joint session RIPE40, Prague Thursday October 4th, 2001, 11:00 - 12:30 Topic: Interim policy for allocation of ipv6 addresses for Internet Exchange Points A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing B. How to proceed for the next iteration of the policy. C. Selection of most important issues that we want to discuss during this session: - how to proceed from the interim policy ?!? - default /64 or /48 allocation size - do we want to have this space allocated from a special block, may be even block that is used by all RIRs for this purpose - what documentation is needed to get an allocation - is there any need to document allocations in the RIPE database, and if so, how ?!? - general wording of the policy (Mirjam will present these issues) D. Discussion of the issues Z. AOB ---

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New Document available: RIPE-228
by RIPE NCC Document Announcement Service 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

New RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-228 Title: Supporting Notes for the RIPE NCC Autonomous System Number Request Form Author: Nurani Nimpuno, Sabrina Waschke Date: 2 October 2001 Format: PS=34002 TXT=15144 Obsoletes: ripe-147 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document provides supporting notes to the Autonomous System Number Request Form. It contains instructions on how to complete the request form for AS Numbers, in the RIPE document: "RIPE NCC Autonomous System Number Request Form" Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- The RIPE document store is available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-228.ps PostScript version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-228.txt plain text version You can also access the RIPE documents in HTML format via WWW. RIPE-228 available from the WWW at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/asnsupport.html

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New Document available: RIPE-227
by RIPE NCC Document Announcement Service 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

New RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-227 Title: RIPE NCC Autonomous System Number Request Form Author: Nurani Nimpuno, Sabrina Waschke Date: 2 October 2001 Format: PS=13173 TXT=3140 Obsoletes: ripe-147 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document contains the set of templates to be used by Local Internet Registries when requesting an Autonomous System (AS) Number from the RIPE NCC. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- The RIPE document store is available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-227.ps PostScript version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-227.txt plain text version You can also access the RIPE documents in HTML format via WWW. RIPE-227 is available from the WWW at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/asnrequestform.html

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Re: [hostmaster-staff] Re: MIR proposal / reservation revisited?
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 02 Oct '01

02 Oct '01

>PS To answer Wilfreds question, it is not reservation revisited it is >aggregation revisited ;) Stephen, in my opinion (from a technical persepctive only), there are two ways of attacking the problem: - 1) to clean up the legacy routes, you have to re-number (which I guess can be done within your address pool(s) - 2) to prevent it from happening again, someone, soemwhere, has to reserve a "big" block of addresses which would support a) additional demand by existing customers, and b) aggregation according to your network's internal structure Item 2) is where my notion of "reservation" is coming from. Do I still get it (completely) wrong? Btw, doing only one of those two is probably not going to work... Wilfried.

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Mail Loop
by Mally Mclane 01 Oct '01

01 Oct '01

Colleagues, We are aware of the mail loop on lir-wg and currently working to fix it. Apologies for the inconvenience and disruption, normal service will be resumed shortly. Regards, Mally Mclane RIPE NCC Operations

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