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Fwd: ARIN to allocate from 69.0.0.0/8
by leo vegoda 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

----- Forwarded message ----- From: "Leslie Nobile" <leslien(a)arin.net> To: <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: ARIN to allocate from 69.0.0.0/8 Date: 8 August 2002 14:23:58 GMT In the near future, ARIN will begin making allocations from 69.0.0.0/8. This will include allocations of /20 and shorter prefixes, according to ARIN's minimum allocation policy. For informational purposes, a list of ARIN's currently administered blocks can be found at http://www.arin.net/statistics/index.html Regards, Leslie Nobile Director, Registration Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) ----- End forwarded message ----- Regards, -- leo vegoda RIPE NCC Registration Services

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Re: [lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

Not really important, but just to avoid being counted as agreeing :-) >Anyway, I think that everyone have suggested to do both with a OR in >between. ...no objection against the OR, but the result of the OR should not be the _only_ input to a decision process. It would be an efficient mechanism to be used _in support_ of continued AS# holdership, though. >Basically just claiming that "yes I do peer at backwater-IX with >Farm-IP and Countryside Networks and I don't get transit from anywhere" >should not be enouhg. I disagree. >RIPE should be able to verify that this is true. Some nit-picking... RIPE (the community): I don't think so - other than having access to some publicly accessible documentation, e.g. in the Routing Registry. The NCC: maybe, if and when we can agree on the criteria, and the cost for verification vs. the result. >- kurtis - Wilfried.

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Re: [lir-wg] Webcasting Meetings
by Janos Zsako 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

> From owner-lir-wg(a)ripe.net Wed Aug 7 14:48:37 2002 > From: "Stephen Burley" <stephenb(a)uk.uu.net> Dear Stephen, > > For a definitive response on whether we actually get to do this at > > the RIPE meetings however, the RIPE chair (Rob) has the last word. > > Since it is our money and our community why does one person hold the keys on > this desicion? I think this question could be appropriate if there was _consensus_ in the community that this is something we _must_ have, and Rob would oppose it. At present I think it is not the case. Janos

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Updating inet6num objects with a legacy status attribute
by leo vegoda 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE Database server, whois.ripe.net, has been updated to allow the new status attributes specified in the document: "New Values of the 'status:' Attribute for inet6num Objects" <http://www.ripe.net/docs/new-value-status.html> The status values of all inet6num objects maintained by the RIPE NCC have been updated as appropriate. We would be grateful if everyone maintaining inet6num objects would update them to use the new status attribute values. The RIPE NCC will use the "ASSIGNED" status value to determine the HD ratio when it receives a request for an additional IPv6 allocation. A request form for additional IPv6 allocations will be published in the near future. Best regards, -- leo vegoda RIPE NCC Registration Services

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Re: [lir-wg] Webcasting Meetings
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

>Hi, > >I do also second Stephen's proposal, it's a good idea. Before I throw in my (historical :-) 2 Groschen, is this the right place to discuss remote participation? Looking at the goal (supporting the open policy process), it is - looking at technology and implementation issues, I'm not so sure? Wilfried.

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RE: [lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued
by Lu, Ping 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

Look like those singlehomed ASs need to shutdown their primary link and activate their backup link so RIPE NCC could verify their LEGAL use of ASes :( For the unused ASs, I think an annual renewal fee is a whole lot easier to verify their intent to use then go thru INCOMPLETE global routing table and non-distribute whois db :) Ping Lu Cable & Wireless USA Network Tools and Analysis Group W: +1-703-292-2359 E: plu(a)cw.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Oliver Bartels [mailto:oliver@bartels.de] > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:31 AM > To: lir-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued > > > Hello, > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:52:13 +0200 (CEST), Sebastian Willing wrote: > >ASs allocated to RIPE: 6016 > >ASs unassigned: 616 > >ASs singlehomed: 224 > >ASs unused: 1526 > Good peace of work, interesting ... > > This statistics shows that the typical problem case isn't a > singlehomed > ASn, it's just an *unused at all* ASn. > > Thus it seems it isn't necessary to establish a big buerocracy > with forms to be signed etc. (like we German tend to do ;-|, its > just sufficient to validate their use in the global table and/or view > peer/upstream AS references (listing in as-set or aut-num object > of partner) corresponding to the ASn in the RIPE database. > > IMHO this should give a large yield (1500+x) with little effort > and covers most "I am $BIGCOMPANY and need a ASn because > its rare and for free" cases. > > Best Regards > Oliver Bartels > > > > Oliver Bartels F+E + Bartels System GmbH + 85435 Erding, Germany > oliver(a)bartels.de + http://www.bartels.de + Tel. +49-8122-9729-0 > >

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New Document available: RIPE-256
by RIPE NCC Document Announcement Service 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store: "IPv6 Address Space Policy for Internet Exchange Points" Short content description ------------------------- Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) are used to exchange Internet traffic between different Internet Service Providers (ISPs). Many Exchange Point operators require address space for the peering mesh that is independent from any of the address space in use by member networks. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- You can access the RIPE documents in HTML format via WWW. "IPv6 Address Space Policy for Internet Exchange Points" is available at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/ripe-256.html The RIPE document store is also available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-256.ps PostScript version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-256.txt plain text version Kind Reagrds, Jeroen Bet Webmaster RIPE NCC

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New Document available: RIPE-243
by RIPE NCC Document Announcement Service 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store: "New Values of the "status:" Attribute for inet6num Objects". Short content description ------------------------- This document describes the new values of the "status:" attribute for inet6num objects and their impact on database operation. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- You can access the RIPE documents in HTML format via WWW. "New Values of the "status:" Attribute for inet6num Objects" is available from the WWW at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/new-value-status.html The RIPE document store is also available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-243.ps PostScript version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-243.txt plain text version Kind Regards, Jeroen Bet Webmaster RIPE NCC

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Antw: Re: [lir-wg] Webcasting Meetings
by Wilson Mehringer 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

Hi, I would also like to support this proposal. It sounds like a call for democracy..on-site or online. It goes without saying that there is a business element to these meetings and a good number of attendees/companies will opt for the webcasts. Nothing against business....as long as it is ethical. Wilson >>> Matthew J Robinson <mjrobinson(a)genuity.net> 05.08.2002 13:34 >>> Hi all, I'd like to lend my support to this proposal. At it's simplest this is a few people with a few web cams and a bit of multicast support from a couple of networks. I'm fairly sure I can get some support from the multicast people on our network. Any one definately going that has a webcam and would be prepared to run a trial? I'll offer what help I can. I admit to knowing little about webcam software but I can route packets ;-) Matthew > Hi > I am formaly asking that if not RIPE 43 then all future meetings will be > webcast so that all memebers who want to attend can attend the meeting. > Otherwise this is by no means an equal opportunity meeing to attend and is > only open to those who can get their expenses justified for holiday > destinations with the express intention of going to the meeting, which lets > face it in the current climate is nigh impossible. Its not that i do not > appreciate the venues or that the meetings are not the place to go, its just > getting harder to get to them. > I wish to see a broader section of the community contributing to the > RIPE process which is unique and a fine foundation for the RIPE community to > come together, its just that the coming together is much harder for most > now. Otherwise the only views expressed and heard are those of the people > who can attend physicaly which is not the majority so limiting the scope and > participation of the community at large. > > Regards, > > > Stephen Burley > WorldCom EMEA Hostmaster > SB855-RIPE > >

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Re: [lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

Hi Kurtis, >> And defining the proper place for a registration is another "minor" >> technical issue >> (Q: portability of AS numbers amongst RIR service areas?). >> But we could give it a try... > >Well, portably I guess is an issue anyway as the database refer to each >other (or do they only do that if there is no match? I am not really into >the whois data...). I am not aware of any (real) implementation of RPS-Dist yet... So - no, not really (a nice research topic in itself!). I was simply picking some "random" numbers here: > wripe as1855 % This is the RIPE Whois server. % The objects are in RPSL format. % Please visit http://www.ripe.net/rpsl for more information. % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html as-block: AS1 - AS1876 descr: ARIN ASN block remarks: These AS numbers are further assigned by ARIN remarks: to ARIN members and end-users in the ARIN region admin-c: ARIN1-RIPE tech-c: ARIN1-RIPE mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT changed: ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net 20010423 source: RIPE role: American Registry for Internet Numbers address: ARIN, see http://www.arin.net admin-c: ARIN1-RIPE tech-c: ARIN1-RIPE nic-hdl: ARIN1-RIPE remarks: For more information on ARIN assigned blocks, connect remarks: to ARIN's whois database, whois.arin.net. mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-MNT changed: ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net 20010508 source: RIPE > warin 1855 Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Inc. (ASN-DISN-PILOTNET1) 150 Cambridge Park Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 US Autonomous System Name: DISN-PILOTNET1 Autonomous System Number: 1855 Coordinator: Wojcik, Jane H. (JHW19-ARIN) jwojcik(a)MEDIA.MIT.EDU (617) 253-0325 Record last updated on 27-May-1992. Database last updated on 1-Aug-2002 20:00:38 EDT. The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's. Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information. > wripe as1755 % This is the RIPE Whois server. % The objects are in RPSL format. % Please visit http://www.ripe.net/rpsl for more information. % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html as-block: AS1 - AS1876 descr: ARIN ASN block remarks: These AS numbers are further assigned by ARIN remarks: to ARIN members and end-users in the ARIN region admin-c: ARIN1-RIPE tech-c: ARIN1-RIPE mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT changed: ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net 20010423 source: RIPE aut-num: AS1755 as-name: AS1755 descr: Ebone Transit Core import: from AS1 accept ANY import: from AS109 accept AS109 [ ...... ] # [ ...... ] # half a mile of routing policy and communities :-) [ ...... ] # mnt-by: AS1755-MNT mnt-lower: AS1755-MNT changed: bart-apps(a)ebone.net 20020702 source: RIPE > warin 1755 Ebone Consortium (ASN-EBONE-INTERNAL) STUPI Box 9129 S-102 72 Stockholm SE Autonomous System Name: EBONE-INTERNAL Autonomous System Number: 1755 Record last updated on 19-Feb-1992. Database last updated on 1-Aug-2002 20:00:38 EDT. The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's. Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information. And while "we" RIPE DB do have a referral mechanism in place for _domains_, .... ;-) And I think both ARIN and APNIC are working on a ("central", similar to the RIPE Region's) routing registry, but it may still be a long way... Cheers, Wilfried.

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