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Commitments for 1995 Contributions
by RIPE NCC Billing Department 22 Dec '94

22 Dec '94

Dear colleagues, finally - in time for Christmas - we have succeeded to complete the commitment form and billing procedures. All relevant files have been compiled in ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/new-registry All documents are available in PostScript (.ps) and ASCII (.txt) versions. Some PostScript files are quite large due to the artwork included. All questions and correspondance associated with this should be directed to <billing(a)ripe.net>. They can also help you if you prefer the documents to be sent by e-mail or surface mail. But please do use this facility only if absolutely necessary. If you are responsible for a local registry we ask you kindly to do the following: 1. Agreement - Print two copies of the file agreement.ps or agreement.txt. - Fill in the agreements and sign them. Do not forget to indicate the billing category. - Send the copies of the agreement to the RIPE NCC by paper mail. Inform <billing(a)ripe.net> of the date you posted the agreements; this way we can detect surface mail problems early on. Upon receipt of the signed agreements <billing(a)ripe.net> will: - Note your commitment in the registry database - Adjust your service level accordingly - Have one copy of the agreement signed by TERENA and returned to you. 2. Registry Form - Send a completed registry form which can be found in file form.txt to <billing(a)ripe.net> - If you are already an established registry you can ask <billing(a)ripe.net> to send you an individual form which shows the data we already have for you. - It is important that you provide accurate billing information. Those of you located inside the EU will be billed 17.5% value added tax unless we have your correct VAT number. 3. Billing Those of you who have already confirmed their contribution and category for 1995 to us will receive a bill from TERENA in the beginning of January. The others will be billed as soon as their agreements have been received. Be sure to not the billing procedures document in file billing.{ps,txt}. If you would like to receive your bill still in 1994 contact <billing(a)ripe.net> as soon as possible to make arrangements for that. We will try to accommodate you as best as we can. 4. Service Level As decided by the NCC Contributors Committee, starting in January those registries which have signed the agreement will be serviced before all those who have not. In this context we advise you to include the regid string of your registry prominently in all correspondance with the NCC. This will facilitate to determine the proper service level. Again I apologise for the delay in producing these documents which took much longer than it should have due to NCC workload and the changes necessary due to the establishment of TERENA as the successor of RARE. A merry christmas and a successful 1995 to all of you Regards Daniel Karrenberg Manager RIPE NCC

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Xmas card
by RIPE NCC Staff 22 Dec '94

22 Dec '94

Dear All, Unfortunately this year we won't be able to send out personal Xmas cards to everyone, but of course this doesn't stop us from extending Xmas greetings and thanks to you all for your support and cooperation over the last year. So, from everyone at the RIPE NCC.... M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S & H A P P Y N E W Y E A R ! () || () Daniel /\ o ...... o o //\\ Anne o ///\\\ ....... Mirjam ////\\\\ ...... o o /////\\()\ Marten ////()\\||\\ ...... Geert Jan /////||\\||\\\ ......... ///()/||\\\\()\\ David ////||///\\\\||\\\ ..... /////||///\\\\||\\\\ ///////////\\\\\\\\\\\ o o o ////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\ o o || RIPE NCC ____________________________||________________________________________ PS The NCC will be closed on Monday December 26th, a public holiday in the Netherlands. We will run a reduced service level between December 27th and December 30th because of the holiday season and the fact that our building is officialy closed (no heating, no lunches). Electronic mail and FAX requests will be processed, telephone response will generally not be available.

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Training of local IRs
by mnorris＠dalkey.hea.ie 22 Dec '94

22 Dec '94

An action on me from RIPE 19 is to bring up for discussion the issue of training for Local IRs. In fact, this was mentioned at the first meeting of the RIPE NCC Contributors' Forum in September. It was proposed that, as an incentive to get people to pay their dues for the operation of the NCC, they would be entitled to attend a course on the running of a local IP registry. This idea was aimed mainly at new providers in Europe, in order to get them trained up and paid up at roughly the same time. I've spoken to Daniel Karrenberg about this, and he sees no reason why such courses could not be offered to all paid-up contributors to the NCC. If they're anything like the PRIDE courses, they could be of great benefit to many of us. I'd be glad to hear your views on this proposal for training of local IRs. If you think it's a good idea, maybe you could suggest some topic headings and reading materials for the course. One suggestion is that many of the course materials could be consolidated by means of WWW. Is it reasonable to assume that the target audience would have WWW access? Cheers. Mike Norris train

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Visa reminder for 20th RIPE meeting
by RIPE NCC Staff 13 Dec '94

13 Dec '94

Dear RIPE meeting attendees, This letter is intended for all of you who need a visa to come to the Netherlands. Since the Dutch embassies tend to be closed from December 23th to January 1st, I would suggest you apply for a visa as fast as possible. On request, we send you an invitation. In this case, please tell us how many days and which days you are planning to stay. If, after the RIPE meeting, you want to stay some additional days we can invite you for some "technical meetings" after the RIPE meeting. Furthermore, please give also your full name, birth date and passport number. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me, David Kessens RIPE NCC

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Registration form 20th RIPE meeting
by RIPE NCC Staff 13 Dec '94

13 Dec '94

20th RIPE meeting Registration reservation form Amsterdam, The Netherlands January 25-27th, 1995 %%%%%%%%%%% PLEASE NOTE %%%%%%%%%%% Our handling of ALL meeting registrations has recently been fully automated. To register for the meeting, please complete the registration form and send it to <meeting(a)ripe.net>. PLEASE FILL THIS OUT AS SPECIFIED. Please add in a value in the `box' area marked between the square brackets (i.e. "[" and "]" s). Note this is what will be used for your badge if you have requested one and for the attendee list so please take care to fill it in correctly. You will receive a notification message that your request has been processed. If however, you have any questions about the meeting or your registration form, please send your completed form to <ncc(a)ripe.net>. If you are interested in participating in the 20th RIPE Meeting in Amsterdam, would you kindly fill in the attached form. Many thanks, David Kessens RIPE NCC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- %START PART 1 - Registration 1) Your name Enter First name, Last name in FULL (remember this is on list and badge) e.g. John Doe Mary-Beth Walton # NAME [ ] 2) I already have a RIPE badge from a previous meeting. If yes please enter Y in the box below. If no please enter N in the box below. # BADGE [ ] 3) Your Organisation/Institution # ORG [ ] 4) Your e-mail address # EMAIL [ ] 5) Country code of organisation e.g. IT FR # CTRY [ ] %END

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Hotels in Amsterdam for 20th RIPE meeting
by RIPE NCC Staff 13 Dec '94

13 Dec '94

********************************************************************* 20th RIPE meeting Details of Hotels in Amsterdam Amsterdam, January 1995 <> All phone numbers below require the prefix 31 20 <quoted number>. <> All tram connections are from central station. Low Budget Hotels (price range 80-120 Hfl) ----------------------------------------- Name Address Phone Fax Tram International Centrum Linnaeusstraat 2 6925111 9 Barbacan Plantage Muidergracht 89 6236241 6272041 9 Parklane Plantage Parklaan 16 6224804 9 Parkzicht Roemer Visscherstraat 33 6180897 5 Roemer Visscher Roemer Visscherstraat 10 6125511 5 Fita Jan Luyckenstraat 37 6790976 5 Mid range (price range 170-280 Hfl) ---------------------------------- Name Price Address Phone Fax Tram sgl/dbl Museum *** 170/244 PC Hooftstraat 2 6621402 6733918 5 Trianon *** 170/244 JW Brouwerstraat 3-7 6732073 6738868 16 Terdam *** 170/244 Tesselschadestraat 23 6126876 6838313 5 Holland *** 170/244 PC Hooftstraat 162 6764253 6765956 5 Beethoven **** 190/280 Beethovenstraat 43 6644816 6621240 24 Lairesse **** 240/280 De Lairessestraat 5-7 6719596 6711756 16 Karena Hotels Group (all centrally located) ------------------- Doelen ) Caransa ) -- Central Reservation number 626 2922 626 6831 Rembrandt ) Schiller ) If all the hotels are full or you are experiencing difficulty, try the following: Business Hotel Services - tel +31 20 691 6969 / fax +31 20 691 6209 This service is free of charge: you just tell them what kind of accommodation you need, where and the rate you want to pay, and they find it for you.

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Announcement 20th RIPE meeting
by RIPE NCC Staff 13 Dec '94

13 Dec '94

Dear all, This is the announcement of the 20th RIPE Meeting from January 25 until January 27, 1995 in Amsterdam. Since this copy is sent to more mailing lists it can be possible that you receive more copies. We hereby want to encourage all RIPE contributors to come to the next meeting, Kind regards, David Kessens RIPE NCC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- R I P E meeting announcement ============================ (This announcement can also be viewed using "finger meeting(a)ncc.ripe.net") This is to announce that the 20th RIPE meeting will take place: Dates: 25th January, 1995 begin: 09:00 26th January, 1995 27th January, 1995 end: 16:00 NOTE: as decided at the 19th RIPE meeting, a new format of the meeting schedule will be in place. This means that the Working Group and special interest group sessions will be scheduled for January 25 (full day) and January 26 (09:00-12:30). The plenary RIPE meeting will take place January 26 (14:00-18:00) and January 27 (09:00-16:00). Venue: CWI Kruislaan 413 1098 SJ Amsterdam The Netherlands Host: NIKHEF Registration: Please use the registration form (which will follow in a separate mail) to give notice of your coming as soon as possible. General Information: -------------------- Currency: 1 UK pound = Hfl 2.76 1 ECU = Hfl 2.14 1 US$ = Hfl 1.76 Appended to this announcement: ------------------------------ <> directions to the meeting place Documents to follow (separate mail messages): --------------------------------------------- <> details of hotels in Amsterdam close to meeting venue <> registration form for attendance at the meeting ================================================================== CWI - The RIPE meeting venue: How do I get there? ------------------------------------------------------------------ To ease any possible confusion, two postscript maps can be found in the RIPE document store. One shows the bus and tram stops around the meeting site and the other is a more general map of the area. Both maps are available by ftp: ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps.Z ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/local.transport-map.ps ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/local.transport-map.ps.Z *PLEASE NOTE: The number 69 and 169 now end at Amstel station rather than Muiderpoort station. The number 15 now connects the Amstel station with Muiderpoort station. a) From Amsterdam Schipol airport: <> Take the train from the airport railway station to the Central Railway station (Amsterdam CS). Then from Amsterdam Central Station : <> Take tram number 9 till the stop at the intersection of Middenweg and Kruislaan (15 min ride). The stop is just before the intersection. <> Walk down the Kruislaan in the direction of the railway bridge. Cross under the bridge and continue. Take the 2nd entrance left and follow the signs to the meeting (15 min walk all together). Instead of walking down Kruislaan you can take the shuttlebus for 2 stops. Turn into Kruislaan and the bustop is a little way down on the right hand side of the road. or from Central Station you can: <> Take bus 22 in the direction 'Indische Buurt' to the stop at the 'Muiderpoort Station' and take shuttlebus 66 which stops outside CWI. b) Alternatively from Amsterdam Schipol <> Take the train from the airport railway station to the RAI station in Amsterdam, which is at the end of this line (10 min ride). NOTE: Amsterdam Central Station (CS) is on another line. Then from the RAI station: <> From the RAI station take the city bus number 69 or CN bus number 169 in the direction `Amstel Station'. From the Amstel Railway Station <> From the Amstel station take the city bus number 15 the direction `Muiderpoort Station' to the stop on the corner of Kruislaan and Linnaeusparkweg (15 min ride, ask the driver where to get off) or proceed to 'Muiderpoort Station' and take shuttlebus 66. You can also take the shuttlebus 66 from the Kruislaan and Linnaeusparkweg intersection as described above. d) Taxi from the airport <> Takes 15 mins and will cost approximately Hfl. 60.00 e) Connections away <> Tram 6 will take you to Leidseplein (now with conductor on tram) Tram 10 also Leidseplein (also with conductor on the tram) Tram 14 To and from Dam Square Tram 9 Rembrandtplein f) Bus 66 Timetable <> From Muiderpoort Station (Monday - Friday) 7.20 7.40 8.00 8.15 8.30 8.45 9.00 9.15 9.40 10.10 10.40 11.10 11.40 12.21 12.51 13.21 13.51 14.21 14.51 15.21 15.51 16.11 16.31 16.51 17.11 17.31 17.51 18.11 <> From CWI to Muiderpoortsation (Monday - Friday) 7.28 7.48 8.08 8.23 8.38 8.53 9.08 9.23 9.48 10.18 10.48 11.18 11.48 12.28 12.58 13.28 13.58 14.28 14.58 15.28 15.58 16.18 16.38 16.58 17.18 17.38 17.58 18.18 <> This bus is a shuttle bus that operates from Muiderpoort station in a large circle around the CWI and NIKHEF campus. ==================================================================== Public Transport - how much does it cost and where can I get tickets? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Tickets of 15 strips (`Strippenkaart' costing Hfl. 10.75) can be bought in Post Offices, railway stations and cigarette shops. Tickets of 2 and 3 strips can be bought on the bus or the tram but they are much more expensive. You have to validate the ticket yourself in the metro stations and in the trams (except on lines 4, 6, 7, 10, 12 and 13). In the buses the driver will validate the ticket. Amsterdam is divided into zones: the old city is in zone `Centrum' whereas CWI is in zone `Oost'. You need to count how many zones you will be travelling through (from the centre - CWI is 2 zones) and count up that number of strips on your ticket + 1 extra. So in the above example you will need to stamp the 3rd strip. In case of overflow you stamp the last strip of the first ticket and start counting the remaining strips on the next ticket. Confused? Ask any member of the local organizing committee. Warning: BEWARE of pickpockets in crowded places. --------------------------

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Internet ru, baltic, is
by Eric Malmstrom 04 Dec '94

04 Dec '94

One of our customers, has a customer who needs Internet connectivity in Russia, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Iceland. Main need is email. Please mail info - service and price - to mikael.runhem(a)ep.se /Eric -- Eric Malmstrom <eric.malmstrom(a)transpac.se> France Telecom Network Services AB Phone: +46 8 619 32 34 Strandbergsgatan 61 Mobile:+46 708 19 32 34 S-112 89 Stockholm, Sweden Fax: +46 8 619 32 00

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IP assignments for corporate networks
by bonito＠nis.garr.it 28 Nov '94

28 Nov '94

Dear Bjorn, I'm using you and a swedish company (MoDo Data) as a test case to verify the comon understanding and behaviour of Last Resort IP registries in Europe. Before writing this message I had phone talks with people at RIPE-NCC and then with Modo Data. Mr Roland Lindvall gave me his permission to use their case in this discussion. I agreed with Marten of the RIPE-NCC with something similar to: --Start of suggested guidelines----- The reasoning behind the following is to promote service provider based address aggregation which is how the Internet works today. A european multinational corporate network is the set of IP networks which are used by a single company which has departments in several different countries in Europe. Such network may be: 1- a private network not connected to the Internet 2- a collection of independent networks each connected to the Internet in its own country 3- a set of networks centrally managed and connected to the Internet in a certain location in a country or eventually in more than one country I know there could be more complicated cases but let's start simple... So, how to assign addresses for a corporate network? 1- the advice is to use the Private Internet address space 2- the advice is to get addresses in each country either from a ISP or from the country last resort 3- the advice is to get addresses in a single country (i.e. the country where the corporate network is or will be connected to the Internet from the ISP if already chosen or from the last resort of that country if not. Eventually addresses can be assigned directly by RIPE-NCC. --End of suggested guidelines----- Then talking with mr Lindvall I knew that their case can be classified as 3: MoDo Data is bulding its own europe-wide network based on private X25 carrying IP. But he stated in his request for addresses to be used in Italy: "Our address coordinator in Sweden" - you - "told me that I have to get addresses from the country they are going to be used in". I told him that we will sort out the issue and get back to him with an answer in a few days. He needs addresses to configure routers in several countries. Best regards. ---------- ---------- Antonio_Blasco Bonito E-Mail: bonito(a)nis.garr.it GARR - Network Information Service c=it;a=garr;p=garr;o=nis;s=bonito c/o CNUCE - Istituto del CNR Tel: +39 (50) 593246 Via S. Maria, 36 Telex: 500371 CNUCE I 56126 PISA Italy Fax: +39 (50) 904052 ---------- ----------

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RIPE Database Transition T2
by Marten Terpstra 17 Nov '94

17 Nov '94

Dear all, Apologies for this wide distribution but I think it is important enough. This is a reminder that coming Monday the 21st of November, the second and last step of the RIPE database transition will take place. This transition is the transition from network number objects that hold all policy information, to route objects that contain all this information. For more detailed info on what exactly will change and how, please read ripe-123 which is available as: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-123.{txt|ps} Especially section 5 explains forthe various RIPE database user groups what is going to change. -Marten

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