November 2002 - lir-wg - mailman.ripe.net

What "Region" is RIPE ?
by Jim Fleming 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

What "Region" is RIPE ? http://www.caida.org/analysis/geopolitical/bgp2country/ http://www.caida.org/analysis/geopolitical/bgp2country/data/source_add_pre_… US 704056771 (50.357%) 65945 (58.259%) 5899 (53.317%) AU 14416063 ( 1.031%) 5894 ( 5.207%) 213 ( 1.925%) CA 26436124 ( 1.891%) 5313 ( 4.694%) 239 ( 2.160%) ZA 6533529 ( 0.467%) 2703 ( 2.388%) 35 ( 0.316%) ?? 306555022 (21.926%) 2547 ( 2.250%) 276 ( 2.495%) DE 51874361 ( 3.710%) 2410 ( 2.129%) 402 ( 3.633%)

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New IPv4 blcok allocated to RIPE NCC
by leo vegoda 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC received the IPv4 address range 82.0.0.0/8 from the IANA in November 2002. We will begin allocating from this range in the near future. You may wish to adjust any filters you have in place accordingly. More information on the IP space administered by the RIPE NCC can be found on our web site at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/smallest-alloc-sizes.html> Kind regards, -- leo vegoda RIPE NCC Registration Services

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Re: [lir-wg] RIPE Payments to ICANN
by Hank Nussbacher 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

At 02:45 AM 27-11-02 +0000, Chris Hallam wrote: I've read over: RIPE NCC Activities, Expenditures, and Charging Scheme 2002 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ap2002.html RIPE NCC Annual Report 2001 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ar2001.html#financial RIPE NCC Activities, Expenditures, and Charging Scheme 2003 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ap2003.html and I have a few questions and comments: 1) Paying ICANN is part of doing being a RIR. I have no complaints here. 2) Where can I find a proposed 2002 budget, which compares itself against 2001? In the same vein, where can I find a proposed 2003 budget? I was not able to find anything like this within the RIPE document store. 3) In the annual report expenses are broken down into 4 categories: personnel, operational, RIPE meetings and LIR training and depreciation. On the other hand, the annual report breaks NCC activities down into the following main categories: registration, training, database services, test traffic (ttm), routing information (RIS), security (DISI), infrastructure, RIPE. Can RIPE NCC provide a budget whereby expenses are broken down by activity as well? Until I have answers to 2 &3 above, there is NO way I can say RIPE NCC is doing a good or bad job in managing its money and everyone else who focuses on one financial tidbit or another is just guessing as well. Without going into specifics, RIPE NCC has to realize that almost every ISP has downsized to the tune of 10-25% (if not more). Every ISP has cut back its CAPEX. Non-profits have a harder time in down-sizing and cutting back on non-essential activities since they are not profit driven. I would hope that the 2002 budget will show a reduction from the 2001 expenses of 7.8MEuro. This one facet alone will show that RIPE NCC is tracking the general ISP industry. -Hank >If my assumptions are correct, the point being made here is that the RIPE >NCC is being questioned over the use of funds, generated from the LIRs, to >support other organisations. In this case the ICANN. > >While it would be interesting to know the sum paid by the RIPE NCC to ICANN, >as outlined in the document below, the matter is already under focus, and >the remaining 50% of the contribution is not going to be paid unless the >Executive Board says otherwise. If other participants of this forum agree >that contributions to ICANN should be suspended, then those people need to >voice their opinions to ensure the Executive Board don't change their minds. > >I, for one, haven't looked closely into the operations of ICANN, but if the >general opinion is that, 'the RIRs can fulfil their mission without ICANN.', >then I am happy to accept that judgement. > >The full document for the 29th Meeting of the RIPE NCC Executive Board can >be found here: >http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/board/minutes/twenty-nine.html > >Financial information relating to ICANN can be found here: >http://www.icann.org/financials/ > >One document that caught my attention was the Report of Expense >Reimbursement and Other Payments to ICANN Directors: >http://www.icann.org/financials/director-expenses-fye2002.htm > > >Chris > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Fleming [mailto:JimFleming@ameritech.net] >Sent: 27 November 2002 02:37 >To: lir-wg(a)ripe.net >Subject: [lir-wg] "...need to raise funding for first half of 2003..." > > >How much does RIPE currently pay to ICANN ? > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc11/msg00184.html >(3) The ICANN budget will not support much funding for the GNSO in first >half of 2003, so our budget assumptions are still valid (ie the GNSO will >need to raise funding for first half of 2003). >===== > > > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. >**********************************************************************

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can we sack Flemming ??
by John M. Brown 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

He is not adding any value to this list and is distracting it away from its more useful flames and comments about various RIPE functions. Flemming has been sacked from the ARIN, NANOG, IETF lists and had his account canceled by at least one provider in the last several months after violating various AUP's.

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RE: [lir-wg] can we sack Flemming ??
by Keith Talent 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Too much spam and gibberish is severely damaging the usefulness of this list. I know that individuals can filter the loons out of their own email, but that doesn't help the web archive. We should do something to clean this up. This list should be a forum for open discussion, but not wilfull disinformation. Fleming has has own mad barrow to push but it has nothing to do with this list. And as for Jeff Williams, every email he sends contains lies (especially any statements about his identity). Neither of them has any interest in the Internet community in this region and neither of them has ever shown any attempt to make a positive contribution. Let's reclaim the list from the maddies. --- ********************************* Keith Talent Snr Sys Admin MSCE DART Problem? What problem? ********************************* Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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CENTR Could Also Lease /8s ?
by Jim Fleming 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

http://www.centr.org/news/vacancy-6.html COUNCIL OF EUROPEAN NATIONAL TOP-LEVEL DOMAIN REGISTRIES Vacancy: General Manager ====================================================== CENTR could also obtain some /8s and lease those to LIRs. That could be a large source of stable funding. http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space

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RE: [lir-wg] From ARIN...RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8
by Boyan Krosnov 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

Chill out Jim. Can you please explain to us where exactly does your conclusion about "allocations flow" come from? I see the message posted to NANOG by the ARIN Director of Registration Services, Leslie Nobile, which says that IANA has allocated 82/8 to RIPE NCC, and that RIPE will begin making allocations. But nothing related to the ARIN invlolvement in this process, neither about "$$$$"s. Where does your conclusion for "Allocations flow" and "$$$$$" flow come from then? I may just be too dumb to see the conspiracy behind the scenes, and excuse me about it. _EVEN IF_ you are right about it all you will have to make a great effort to educate and share with the community. And _NO_, messages like this one will not earn you any points of support. Try to be more descriptive. To write longer messages. To accumulate and systematize the information that you have gathered. There is no use for 5 messages of 2 lines every day. Links don't do any good if they are not properly described. Try to also explain the flow of thought that takes you from point A to point B, as in this case from the Nobile->NANOG message to "Allocations flow" and "$$$$". Still as dumb as a network engineer from Eastern Europe, Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701 http://boyan.ludost.net/ Just another techie speaking for himself > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Fleming [mailto:JimFleming@ameritech.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:54 PM > To: lir-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: [lir-wg] From ARIN...RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8 > > > http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg05359.html > RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8 > ==== > > IP Allocations flow....>>>> > ICANN---->ARIN---->RIPE---->LIRs---->ISPs---->Users > $$<------$$$$<------$$$$$$$$$<------$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$<----- > > > Jim Fleming > 128-bit DNS is closer than you think... > IPv16...COM...NET...AM...NZ...AE...FM...NR...SZ...AC...DE...FI > ...JM...NO...PR...ST...UZ > http://ipv8.dyndns.tv > http://ipv8.dyns.cx > http://ipv8.no-ip.com > http://ipv8.no-ip.biz > http://ipv8.no-ip.info > http://ipv8.myip.us > http://ipv8.dyn.ee > > >

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"...RIRs can fulfil their mission without ICANN..." ?
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/board/minutes/twenty-nine.html All were convinced that in close cooperation with the IETF + IAB and the name registries the RIRs can fulfil their mission without ICANN. AP reported that a new joint RIR statement is expected to be published during the weeks to come. The remaining 50% of the ICANN contribution is not to be paid until further instruction from the Executive Board. The Executive Board wants to check whether payment will be beneficial to the RIPE NCC or to the Internet. ======================= http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/ "The RIPE NCC currently supports 3150 Local Internet Registries (LIRs) who collectively form the RIPE NCC membership."

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"...need to raise funding for first half of 2003..."
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

How much does RIPE currently pay to ICANN ? http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc11/msg00184.html (3) The ICANN budget will not support much funding for the GNSO in first half of 2003, so our budget assumptions are still valid (ie the GNSO will need to raise funding for first half of 2003). =====

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3:19...Re: [lir-wg] From ARIN...RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyan Krosnov" <bkrosnov(a)lirex.bg> I know that Bulgaria has the whole 3:19 ====== 3:19 maps to 98.0.0.0 for TOS!=0,0x0*,0x*0 3*256 = 768...768+19 = 787....787 / 8 = 98... http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space 098/8 Sep 81 IANA - Reserved http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt 3:17 SAUNA 3:19 BG (BULGARIA) <<<<<<<<< ============================= http://root-dns.org/vuedig/vuedig_tld.php?tld=sauna&record=NS ==== http://register.icann.org/cgi/amsterdam_attendees.cgi 6 Axel Pawlik Axel Pawlik The RIPE NCC NL 7 Carsten Schiefner Carsten Schiefner The RIPE NCC NL 13 Rob Blokzijl Rob Blokzijl ICANN Board of Directors Netherlands ==== In Texas they have a saying...."Big Hat, No Cattle"...

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Annual Meeting in Amsterdam
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-13nov02.htm http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-42/presentations/ripe42-lir-… Address Council Membership RIPE Region a.. Hans-Petter Holen* b.. Sabine Jaume c.. Wilfried Woeber =======

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3:207...Fw: [lir-wg] RE: From ARIN...RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hallgren" <m.hallgren(a)free.fr> > Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr/, MH2198-RIPE > === You can check for IN-ADDR.FR http://www.analogx.com/contents/dnsdig.htm 3:204 WARSAW 3:205 TRUSS 3:206 SE (SWEDEN) 3:207 FR (FRANCE) 3:208 ATHENS 3:209 FLAKE 3:210 DK (DENMARK) ==== Note...the 11-bits (3:207) can fit in the existing IPv4 headers...

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RE: From ARIN...RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

>Can you please explain to us .... NO, pls. don't even _ask_ for it ;-) We're already getting more than our reasonable share of noise _without_ asking for it.... -W.

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Re: [lir-wg] From ARIN...RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

----- Original Message ----- From: "Boyan Krosnov" <bkrosnov(a)lirex.bg> Reading the draft below it seems that ICANN perporms some of the functions of IANA, including the administration of the arpa TLD.... http://www.ngi.org/enum/pub/draft-iab-arpa-00.txt Do you then conclude that RIPE should pay ICANN directly ? http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space Does it matter who RIPE pays the $168,000,000 per /8 per year to ? ======

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ICANN--->RIPE or ICANN--->ARIN--->RIPE ?
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

ICANN--->RIPE http://www.icann.org/biog/blokzijl.htm "Robert Blokzijl is a founding member of RIPE, the European open forum for IP networking. Since its foundation in 1989, he has been chairman of this organization, and was instrumental in the creation of RIPE NCC in 1992 as the first Regional Internet Registry in the world." === ICANN--->ARIN--->RIPE ? ...appears to more closely follow the IN-ADDR.ARPA delegations... Jim Fleming 128-bit DNS is closer than you think... IPv16...COM...NET...AM...NZ...AE...FM...NR...SZ...AC...DE...FI...JM...NO...PR...ST...UZ http://ipv8.dyndns.tv http://ipv8.dyns.cx http://ipv8.no-ip.com http://ipv8.no-ip.biz http://ipv8.no-ip.info http://ipv8.myip.us http://ipv8.dyn.ee

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From ARIN...RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg05359.html RIPE NCC to allocate from 82.0.0.0/8 ==== IP Allocations flow....>>>> ICANN---->ARIN---->RIPE---->LIRs---->ISPs---->Users $$<------$$$$<------$$$$$$$$$<------$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$<----- Jim Fleming 128-bit DNS is closer than you think... IPv16...COM...NET...AM...NZ...AE...FM...NR...SZ...AC...DE...FI...JM...NO...PR...ST...UZ http://ipv8.dyndns.tv http://ipv8.dyns.cx http://ipv8.no-ip.com http://ipv8.no-ip.biz http://ipv8.no-ip.info http://ipv8.myip.us http://ipv8.dyn.ee

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RIPE in China...
by Jim Fleming 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

http://www.iab.org/IABmins/IABmins.2002-10-08.html ".ARPA Domain Servers The chair reported that the RIPE NCC has secured an agreement with CNNIC to operate a secondary e164.arpa domain name server in China." ==== Jim Fleming 128-bit DNS is closer than you think... IPv16...COM...NET...AM...NZ...AE...FM...NR...SZ...AC...DE...FI...JM...NO...PR...ST...UZ http://ipv8.dyndns.tv http://ipv8.dyns.cx http://ipv8.no-ip.com http://ipv8.no-ip.biz http://ipv8.no-ip.info http://ipv8.myip.us http://ipv8.dyn.ee

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US...
by Jim Fleming 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Las Vegas, Nevada, US http://www.arin.net/library/minutes/ARIN_IX/PPM.html Mader, Sabine RIPE NCC Pawlik, Axel RIPE NCC Rendek, Paul RIPE NCC

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Re: [lir-wg] 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
by Janos Zsako 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

> From lir-wg-admin(a)ripe.net Mon Nov 25 16:59:35 2002 > From: Andrius Kasparavicius <andrius(a)andrius.org> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 03:42:38PM +0000, Sebastien Lahtinen wrote: > > > > Maybe ripe customers should pay per service, not per membership status. > > > For every IP allocation(depends on size, work needed), for every ASn, > > > and oth.? > > > > This is in effect what SMALL, MEDIUM and LARGE is about I guess.. I'm not > > sure however that we will benefit from the increased level of fees, but I > > would have to look at it more closely. > > But I think it is inadequate calculation. I didn't see anywhere any > specification about how membership status is assigned. Maybe someone can > point me out? :-) The RIPE NCC Activity plan for 2003 makes reference to the algorithm used to determine the size of a LIR. This is the paragraph 4.1. of RIPE document ripe-146 that you can find at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-146.txt or ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-146.ps This algorithm is used to determine the LIR sizes since 1997, if I am correct. I hope this helps. Best regards, Janos PS: The algorithm tries to take into account the address space already allocated to the LIR, weighted with the age of the allocation. The rationale of this weighting is that the NCC hostmasters have less work with older allocations. This is based on the NCC's experience, as far as I know. > Andrius >

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RIPE NCC Status Update Mr. Axel Pawlik
by Jim Fleming 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

http://lacnic.net/en/schedule.html RIPE NCC Status Update Mr. Axel Pawlik

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RE: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
by Boyan Krosnov 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

note to self: I'll probably regret having a word wih this troll, but I'll take the chances. :) Jim, WHAT makes you think that RIPE NCC pays for addresses? WHOM do you think they pay to? Please don't even mention IPv8/IPv16 this time, they are not in the question so I expect an answer clean of those two. Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701 http://boyan.ludost.net/ Just another techie speaking for himself > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Fleming [mailto:JimFleming@ameritech.net] > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:21 PM > To: Peter Galbavy; Axel Pawlik > Cc: Local IR Working Group > Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ? > > > Given that 32-bit IP addresses lease(rent) for $10 to $15 per month... > ...and given that Real Estate brokers generally take one > month's rent per year as a fee... > ....the market value for a /8 would be approximately > $168,000,000 per year... > > How much does RIPE pay (wholesale) for a /8 ? > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space > 082/8 Nov 02 RIPE NCC (whois.ripe.net) > ===

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Fw: "In 3 plus years no reporter has asked me anything at an ICANN meeting."
by Jim Fleming 25 Nov '02

25 Nov '02

Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: Re: "In 3 plus years no reporter has asked me anything at an ICANN meeting." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Cohen" <jcohen(a)shapirocohen.com> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:26 AM > Subject: RE: "In 3 plus years no reporter has asked me anything at an ICANN meeting." > > > > Well Im pleased to be a source of amusement. > ==== > > What is the annual (license|lease) fee for a /8 ? > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space > > What /8s have been billed this year ? > http://lacnic.net/en/transition.html > > http://www.icann.org/committees/exec-search/ceo-search-announcement-20nov02… > http://www.icann.org/committees/exec-search/ceo-spec-20nov02.htm > The 2002-2003 budget authorizes total expenditures of US$6.2 Million and a staff of 27. > ==== > $6,200,000 / 27 = $229,629.63 > ==== > > Where is the revenue from Address Space Leasing (Licensing) ? > ===== > > >

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ERX of v4 address space proposal
by Andrei Robachevsky 22 Nov '02

22 Nov '02

Dear Colleagues, Please find attached the proposal for the ERX of IPv4 address space for your review. This proposal was reviewed by the ERX-Taskforce that was set-up at the RIPE 43 meeting. Comments received were summarised and sent to both Database and LIR Working Group mailing lists. We would appreciate your feedback on this proposal no later than Wednesday, 13 November 2002. A timeline for this project will be issued along with final project description. Regards, Andrei Robachevsky RIPE NCC ERX of v4 address space ----------------------- INTRODUCTION When ARIN began operations, it inherited classful blocks of addresses ("legacy" space) that were issued to organisations not in ARIN's region. The Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) are co-ordinating the transfer of these records from the ARIN Database to RIPE Database or APNIC Database, as appropriate. This is based on geographic location of each resource holder. The affected records include class B networks and class C ranges, particularly those issued from 192/8. ARIN also maintains reverse delegation for all legacy address space. Once the transfer is complete, this responsibility will be distributed among the RIRs according to their respective regions. BENEFITS This will enable resource holders to maintain all their records in one database and End Users to interface with just one RIR for all database and reverse delegation matters. This effort will also help to locate address holders and recover unused or underutilised address space. IMPACT ON RESOURCE HOLDERS Entities holding legacy space to be transferred can expect the process to be largely transparent. While it will not affect network status in any way, resource holders might be required to create contact identifiers with the proper registry if they do not already exist. Queries made in WHOIS for an IP block that has been transferred to another RIR will be directed to the appropriate RIR. APPROACH The plan is to perform the transfer by /8. For each /8 the following tasks have to be performed: 1. Conflicts (contacts and description) to be resolved 2. Records and associated documentation to be transferred 3. Reverse delegation to be set up A total of 47 /8's with 8030 records have to be transferred. CONFLICTS The following types of conflicts have been identified: C1. Record exists in ARIN DB only. There is no exact matching (range wise) record in the RIPE DB. Proposal: to update internal documentation, create the record in the RIPE DB and protect with a unique generated mntner. C2. Range matches records in both ARIN and RIPE DBs. Meaning that contact and description may be different. Most cases indicate out of date information in one of the Databases, not real conflicts or attempts to hijack address space. What happened in most cases is that people started maintaining their allocation or assignement in the RIPE DB, especially since RIPE DB started to support the Routing Registry. Proposal: Notify conflicts and give time to reach consensus. After the deadline merge those who haven't responded, but _do_not_lock_ (keep the same mntner). C3.0 Record exists in the RIPE DB only. C3.1. One reason why such situation may exist is that this is a valid RIPE NCC allocation. Proposal: To preserve information in the RIPE DB. C3.2 Another situation is that the registration data are simply garbage. Proposal: Notify, give time for explanations and clean up in the end. PROCEDURE for a /8 1. Pre transfer 1.1 Initial dump is prepared for transfer by ARIN 1.2 Announcement is sent to ARIN's contacts 1.3 Reverese delegation domain space is cleaned up in the RIPE DB (reverse domain objects for which no delegation was provided are deleted) 2. Transfer 2.1 Final dump is prepared by ARIN 2.2 C1 group: database records are imported, documentation is updated, contacts are notified 2.3 C2 group: contacts (ARIN+RIPE) are asked to reach consensus. 2.4 C3.2 group: contacts are notified of possible deletion. 2.5 DNS is updated: domain objects are generated, zone (full or partial) is generated. 3. Conflict resolution 3.1 C2 group: non responding records are merged but _not_locked_. 3.2 C3.2 group: records without good reasons are deleted. -------

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Re: [db-wg] Re: [lir-wg] Re: ERX of v4 address space proposal
by Jim Fleming 21 Nov '02

21 Nov '02

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kandra Nygårds" <kandra(a)foxette.net> To: "Jim Fleming" <JimFleming(a)Ameritech.Net> Cc: <lir-wg(a)ripe.net> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [db-wg] Re: [lir-wg] Re: ERX of v4 address space proposal > From: "Jim Fleming" <JimFleming(a)ameritech.net> > > > From: "Andrei Robachevsky" <andrei(a)ripe.net> > > > Our current data shows that around 753 networks will go to APNIC, 9072 > > > stay with ARIN, 92 will go to LACNIC and 3176 to RIPE NCC. > > > > Note, LACNIC is less than 30 days old, and it will get 92 /8s ? *each* > valued at $1 to $2 billion dollars ? > > No kidding! Not to mention the 9072 /8s that ARIN keeps, and the 3176 /8s > that goes to RIPE. Jim, quick! Buy ARIN stock before it's too late! Or even > better, send your money to me and I'll buy the stock for you! > > When you add the 11 additional bits of addressing to the existing IPv4 header, you get 2,048 32-bit address spaces in both the AM and FM Internets. That is a lot of /8s, but ARIN and RIPE only deal with TOS=0,0x0*,0x*0. http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space 128-bit DNS AAAA Record Flag Day Formats 2002:[IPv4]:[SDLL.OFFF.FFFF.TTTT]:[64-bit IPv8 or IPv16 Persistent Address] [YMDD]:[IPv4]:[SDLL.OFFF.FFFF.TTTT]:[64-bit IPv8 or IPv16 Persistent Address] 1-bit to set the Reserved/Spare ("AM/FM") bit in Fragment Offset [S] 1-bit to set the Don't Fragment (DF) bit [D] 2-bits to select 1 of 4 common TTL values (255, 128, 32, 8) [LL] 1-bit for Options Control [O] 7-bits to set the Identification Field(dst) [FFFFFFF] 4-bits to set the TOS(dst) Field [TTTT] Default SDLL.OFFF.FFFF.TTTT = 0000.0000.0000.0000 FFF.FFFF.TTTT = GGG.SSSS.SSSS http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt IPv8 0QQQQGGGSSSSSSSS[32-bits][Port] IPv16 0QQQQGGGSSSSSSSS[32-bits][Port] 1WWWWWWWSSSSSSSS[32-bits][Port] === Jim Fleming 128-bit DNS is closer than you think... IPv16...COM...NET...AM...NZ...AE...FM...NR...SZ...AC...DE...FI...JM...NO...PR...ST...UZ http://ipv8.dyndns.tv http://ipv8.dyns.cx http://ipv8.no-ip.com http://ipv8.no-ip.biz http://ipv8.no-ip.info http://ipv8.myip.us http://ipv8.dyn.ee

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What /8s have been transferred to LACNIC ?
by Jim Fleming 20 Nov '02

20 Nov '02

What /8s have been transferred to LACNIC ? http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space How much did LACNIC pay for them ? http://lacnic.net/en/transition.html http://lacnic.net/cgi-bin/meeting/list.cgi?lang=en Andrew McLaughlin ICANN US IVAN MOURA CAMPOS ICANN BR IVAN MOURA CAMPOS ICANN BR John Crain ICANN US Raymond Plzak ARIN US Paul Wilson APNIC AU Leslie Nobile ARIN US ===== Jim Fleming 128-bit DNS is closer than you think... IPv16...NET...COM...AM...NZ...AE...FM...NR...SZ...AC...DE...FI...JM...NO...PR...ST...UZ http://ipv8.dyndns.tv http://ipv8.dyns.cx http://ipv8.no-ip.com http://ipv8.no-ip.biz http://ipv8.no-ip.info http://ipv8.myip.us http://ipv8.dyn.ee http://ipv8.community.net.au

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