Replacing the IPv6 Working Group chairs
Dear Colleagues, As announced during the meeting in Warsaw, after David’s decision to step down, Shane and I decided to also make place for some fresh new people. Over the past months we have been working with the candidates, who volunteered during the session and on this mailing list, on how to exactly make this change happen. And how to do that in as light weight a way as possible, while still have it based on the principles of transparency and rough consensus. As you may already have seen on other lists, there is an open action point to all working group chairs to, together with the working group, document the procedure by which chairs are selected, replaced and on a regular basis re-affirmed by the working group. As we already decided to step down, Shane and I feel slightly uncomfortable in our final act being to document how to replace ourselves. We would rather have the newly selected group of volunteers to take the lead in this process. Discussing this with Hans Petter, the RIPE Chair, he agreed to this approach. Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions: - Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson We, as acting working group chairs, would suggest the following: - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group - Have the new chairs, together with the working group, draft the selection process with the aim of reaching consensus and publishing this document prior to RIPE 70 which will be in Amsterdam in May 2015. - Take the 70th RIPE meeting as an opportunity to execute the new process for the first time and have the working group re-affirm the new chairs under the new procedure. Shane and I, together with the new people, will continue to work on creating an inspiring agenda for the upcoming meeting in London and to prepare the new chairs for the upcoming change and of course, after the hand over, will be available for advice and assistance to ensure continuity of this working group in the transitioning phase. We would like to invite you all to provide us with your feedback on this proposed plan and to reach consensus on this matter, Regards, Marco Hogewoning Shane Kerr co-chairs of the RIPE IPv6 Working Group
Hi, On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support. Gert Doering -- random participant -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Am 23.09.2014 14:55, schrieb Gert Doering:
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group Support.
Gert Doering -- random participant Hi,
I support the three as new chairs of our working group. Wilhelm
Hi. Marco, Shane, +1. Support. Carlos (-- remote participant) On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
Gert Doering -- random participant -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support. Gert Doering -- random participant -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Hi, Thus wrote Gert Doering (gert@space.net):
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
+1 regards, spz -- spz@serpens.de (S.P.Zeidler)
Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
We, as acting working group chairs, would suggest the following:
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
+1! Sander
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:55:33PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
+1 Piotr -- gucio -> Piotr Strzyżewski E-mail: Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
+1
* Gert Doering
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
+1 Tore
I also support them. Wolfgang ________________________________________ Von: ipv6-wg-bounces@ripe.net [ipv6-wg-bounces@ripe.net]" im Auftrag von "Tore Anderson [tore@fud.no] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. September 2014 07:36 An: ipv6-wg@ripe.net IPv6 Betreff: Re: [ipv6-wg] Replacing the IPv6 Working Group chairs * Gert Doering
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
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Hi all, I also support them. Regards, Maribel. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
* Gert Doering <gert@space.net> [2014-09-23 14:57]:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
+1 -- GPG Key: 0x93A0B9CE (F4F6 B1A3 866B 26E9 450A 9D82 58A2 D94A 93A0 B9CE) 'Are you Death?' ... IT'S THE SCYTHE, ISN'T IT? PEOPLE ALWAYS NOTICE THE SCYTHE. -- Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant
+1 :) 2014-10-01 13:56 GMT+04:00 Sebastian Wiesinger <ripe.ipv6-wg@ml.karotte.org> :
* Gert Doering <gert@space.net> [2014-09-23 14:57]:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:40:32PM +0200, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson [..] - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support.
+1
-- GPG Key: 0x93A0B9CE (F4F6 B1A3 866B 26E9 450A 9D82 58A2 D94A 93A0 B9CE) 'Are you Death?' ... IT'S THE SCYTHE, ISN'T IT? PEOPLE ALWAYS NOTICE THE SCYTHE. -- Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant
-- -- Alex Semenyaka
On 23.9.2014 13:40, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
candidates for the open positions: - Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Supported.
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
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On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote:
Dear Colleagues, <snip> Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
supported -- Roger Jorgensen | ROJO9-RIPE rogerj@gmail.com | - IPv6 is The Key! http://www.jorgensen.no | roger@jorgensen.no
On 23/09/14 17:16, Roger Jørgensen wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote:
Dear Colleagues, <snip> Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson supported
+1 cheers, elvis
Supported Kind regards. Faruk Sejdic BHTelecom d.d. Email: faruk.sejdic@bhtelecom.ba -----Original Message----- From: ipv6-wg-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:ipv6-wg-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Roger Jørgensen Sent: 23 September 2014 17:17 To: ipv6-wg@ripe.net IPv6 Subject: Re: [ipv6-wg] Replacing the IPv6 Working Group chairs On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote:
Dear Colleagues, <snip> Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
supported -- Roger Jorgensen | ROJO9-RIPE rogerj@gmail.com | - IPv6 is The Key! http://www.jorgensen.no | roger@jorgensen.no
Marco, Shane, On 9/23/14, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote:
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
support! --a
On 23.09.2014 1:40 PM, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
We, as acting working group chairs, would suggest the following:
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support! -Tim
Hi,
Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
We, as acting working group chairs, would suggest the following: - The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group - Have the new chairs, together with the working group, draft the selection process with the aim of reaching consensus and publishing this document prior to RIPE 70 which will be in Amsterdam in May 2015. - Take the 70th RIPE meeting as an opportunity to execute the new process for the first time and have the working group re-affirm the new chairs under the new procedure.
I support too. George On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
As announced during the meeting in Warsaw, after David’s decision to step down, Shane and I decided to also make place for some fresh new people. Over the past months we have been working with the candidates, who volunteered during the session and on this mailing list, on how to exactly make this change happen. And how to do that in as light weight a way as possible, while still have it based on the principles of transparency and rough consensus.
As you may already have seen on other lists, there is an open action point to all working group chairs to, together with the working group, document the procedure by which chairs are selected, replaced and on a regular basis re-affirmed by the working group.
As we already decided to step down, Shane and I feel slightly uncomfortable in our final act being to document how to replace ourselves. We would rather have the newly selected group of volunteers to take the lead in this process. Discussing this with Hans Petter, the RIPE Chair, he agreed to this approach.
Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
We, as acting working group chairs, would suggest the following:
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group - Have the new chairs, together with the working group, draft the selection process with the aim of reaching consensus and publishing this document prior to RIPE 70 which will be in Amsterdam in May 2015. - Take the 70th RIPE meeting as an opportunity to execute the new process for the first time and have the working group re-affirm the new chairs under the new procedure.
Shane and I, together with the new people, will continue to work on creating an inspiring agenda for the upcoming meeting in London and to prepare the new chairs for the upcoming change and of course, after the hand over, will be available for advice and assistance to ensure continuity of this working group in the transitioning phase.
We would like to invite you all to provide us with your feedback on this proposed plan and to reach consensus on this matter,
Regards,
Marco Hogewoning Shane Kerr
co-chairs of the RIPE IPv6 Working Group
On 23/09/2014 13:40, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
We, as acting working group chairs, would suggest the following:
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Support. O.
On 23/09/14 13:40, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
Full support. Well done! :)
- Have the new chairs, together with the working group, draft the selection process with the aim of reaching consensus and publishing this document prior to RIPE 70 which will be in Amsterdam in May 2015.
I'm a bit confused - new chairs will have to write a procedure that will enable them to become chairs later on?
- Take the 70th RIPE meeting as an opportunity to execute the new process for the first time and have the working group re-affirm the new chairs under the new procedure.
This is a bit confusing, I must say. If the working group agrees on new chairs, then there is no need of re-confirming. We can ask them to come up with a new procedure that is evaluated in WG, but is used for next chair(s) rotation. Don't add too much complexity, please ;)
Shane and I, together with the new people, will continue to work on creating an inspiring agenda for the upcoming meeting in London and to prepare the new chairs for the upcoming change and of course, after the hand over, will be available for advice and assistance to ensure continuity of this working group in the transitioning phase.
Thnx for all the work done in the past and in the future! Cheers, Jan Zorz
- Have the new chairs, together with the working group, draft the selection process with the aim of reaching consensus and publishing this document prior to RIPE 70 which will be in Amsterdam in May 2015.
I'm a bit confused - new chairs will have to write a procedure that will enable them to become chairs later on?
- Take the 70th RIPE meeting as an opportunity to execute the new process for the first time and have the working group re-affirm the new chairs under the new procedure.
This is a bit confusing, I must say. If the working group agrees on new chairs, then there is no need of re-confirming. We can ask them to come up with a new procedure that is evaluated in WG, but is used for next chair(s) rotation. Don't add too much complexity, please ;)
The idea is to have a process in place for each working group to elect and re-elect chairs. It is up for this WG, as all others, to come up with something that fits the needs of the group, adheres to the fundamental RIPE prinicples like openness, transparency and inclusiveness. What this in the most simple wording would come down to is “limited terms” and a re-election every once in while, not because somebody decides to step down, but because some timer went off. As explained, Shane and I felt a bit uncomfortable taking the lead in this process. While ultimately it is up to the working group and not the chairs to decide, they no doubt will play an important role in drafting and guiding the group to consensus. We think this is better done by some fresh heads rather than the ones that are on the way out. At the same time this is causing some bootstrapping issues, we want new chairs to take the lead, but there is no process. So we used the old one, if there is such a thing. Which means there are no timers and it might not be done in line with the yet to designed process. So the easiest and most fair way to fix this is to design a process and once consensus has been reached to execute it. Wether that is just a formality to re-affirm the current new chairs or a full reset, I believe is one question that needs to be addressed in the design process. In the end it needs a starting point, so we better be fair and put a reasonable deadline on it. I hope this answers your questions and we are of course welcoming other feedback, Marco
On 23 Sep 2014, at 12:40, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote: Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
I also support the above named. Mick
Marco, On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh@marcoh.net> wrote:
Talks and email exchanges amongst those people who nominated themselves or who’s name was brought forward has left three remaining candidates for the open positions:
- Jen Linkova - Benedikt Stokebrand - Dave Wilson
I believe this is an excellent team and they will serve the working group well. David Kessens ---
On 09/23/2014 02:40 PM, Marco Hogewoning wrote:
- The IPv6 Working Group, via this mailing list, to affirm the appointment of Jen, Dave and Benedikt as the new chairs of the IPv6 Working Group
I support this
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Alex Semenyaka -
Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko -
Carlos Friacas -
Daniel Baeza (Red y Sistemas TVT) -
Daniel Suchy -
David Kessens -
Elvis Velea -
Faruk Sejdic -
Fritsche Wolfgang -
George Giannousopoulos -
Gert Doering -
Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve) -
Jan Zorz ＠ go6.si -
Marco Hogewoning -
Maribel Cosín -
Mick O'Donovan -
Mike Simkins -
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond -
Piotr Strzyzewski -
Roger Jørgensen -
S.P.Zeidler -
Sander Steffann -
Sebastian Wiesinger -
Tim Kleefass -
Tore Anderson -
Wilhelm Boeddinghaus -
Yannis Nikolopoulos