[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] New IPv6 Address Block Allocated to RIPE NCC
Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2003:0000::/18 from the IANA in January 2005. You may wish to adjust any filters you have in place accordingly. More information on the IP space administered by the RIPE NCC can be found on our web site at: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/smallest-alloc-sizes.html> Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC
Hi Leo,
The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2003:0000::/18 from the IANA in January 2005.
Yep, and 50% of this allocation as already been allocated to one LIR. I am not used to see 50% of IANA block allocated to LIR, but i assume that it is new address-policy rules i was not aware of !
BTW, i read 2001:2000::/20 ===> smallest RIPE Allocation : /32 and "Smallest allocation" refers to the smallest allocation made to LIRs by the RIPE NCC Since 2001:2000::/20 have only one allocation, should not it be "/20" ? V
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 11:00 +0100, Vincent Gillet wrote:
Hi Leo,
The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2003:0000::/18 from the IANA in January 2005.
Yep, and 50% of this allocation as already been allocated to one LIR.
I am not used to see 50% of IANA block allocated to LIR, but i assume that it is new address-policy rules i was not aware of !
What is the issue with this? Deutsche Telekom can _easily_ show demand for the need for this allocation and that is the only thing they need to do. I actually am very glad that they got this, now let's see how quickly all Germans will have access to IPv6, this should give some momentum to hosters saying "there are no IPv6 clients". This policy has been in place for quite some time already and works for most if not all people, complain address-policy-wg@ripe.net if you really do not like it. Btw we are nearing 1000 global IPv6 allocations over 77 countries ;) 1x /19 2x /20 2x /21 1x /23 59x /24 2x /27 57x /28 2x /30 1x /31 772x /32 11x /35 Totaling in 910 TLA prefixes. 145 of which 6bone, the /24 & /28's + some /32's which will disappear next year (6/6/2006). RIPE (432) APNIC (183) ARIN (130) LACNIC (20) The RIPE region is of course in lead ;) Also see: http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/tla/
BTW, i read
2001:2000::/20 ===> smallest RIPE Allocation : /32
and
"Smallest allocation" refers to the smallest allocation made to LIRs by the RIPE NCC
Since 2001:2000::/20 have only one allocation, should not it be "/20" ?
a /32 is "small", a /20 is "big", thus a /32 is the smallest prefix that will be given from this block. The largest is indeed logically a /20. Greets, Jeroen
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:00:34AM +0100, Vincent Gillet wrote:
The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2003:0000::/18 from the IANA in January 2005.
Yep, and 50% of this allocation as already been allocated to one LIR.
I am not used to see 50% of IANA block allocated to LIR, but i assume that it is new address-policy rules i was not aware of !
Those are in place since longer. Take customer count and HD-Ratio and do the maths. It's simple, and DTAG would probably have qualified for more if they really wanted. France Telecom has a couple of million customers too I guess. A /20 can be justified by approx. 3.2 million, a /19 needs ~5.5mio. Regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr@cluenet.de -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0
dr@cluenet.de disait :
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:00:34AM +0100, Vincent Gillet wrote:
The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2003:0000::/18 from the IANA in January 2005.
Yep, and 50% of this allocation as already been allocated to one LIR.
I am not used to see 50% of IANA block allocated to LIR, but i assume that it is new address-policy rules i was not aware of !
Those are in place since longer. Take customer count and HD-Ratio and do the maths. It's simple, and DTAG would probably have qualified for more if they really wanted.
France Telecom has a couple of million customers too I guess. A /20 can be justified by approx. 3.2 million, a /19 needs ~5.5mio.
I am ok this the size /whatever. My concern is the difference about /18 allocation from IANA versus /19 allocation to LIR thus a 50% immediate usage. If France Telecom get a /19 too, it is full ==> . Ripe would request another block to IANA, . adminitrative work, . need to notify LIRs about this new block .... . need to update filters oncemore, .... I am more concerned with Operations. Update filtering is part of my job. Vincent.
Hi, On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:25:21PM +0100, Vincent Gillet wrote:
I am ok this the size /whatever.
My concern is the difference about /18 allocation from IANA versus /19 allocation to LIR
thus a 50% immediate usage.
As I've mentioned before (maybe overly cryptic) this is an area of ongoing concern - and the goal is to distribute address space from ICANN to the RIRs in "reasonable" chunks, for example a /12 or /8. There are some proposals out in all the regions, the majority of the constituency in all regions seems to be in favour of it (with small regional changes that are not incompatible to other regions), and we're waiting to see it implemented. The fact that the current allocation strategy is less-than-perfect (to be polite, for once) is mostly ICANNs fault, for clinging to a now-deprecated RFC and being very passive about abouting the processes. Bluntly: there are some people that cannot count, and assume that "IPv6 will run out tomorrow" if reasonable sizes are distributed. The arguments are always very similar ("classful addressing has failed in the past!" "people also said that 640 kbytes are enough!" and other "I don't want to think about large numbers but I oppose this!"- Arguments). Much more details about this can be found in the archives of the IPv6 WG and the address-policy WG (on http://www.ripe.net/) Gert Doering -- Address Policy WG Co-Chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 71007 (66629) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
Hi, (cc: list reduced to ipv6-wg) On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:00:34AM +0100, Vincent Gillet wrote:
Hi Leo,
The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2003:0000::/18 from the IANA in January 2005.
Yep, and 50% of this allocation as already been allocated to one LIR.
I am not used to see 50% of IANA block allocated to LIR, but i assume that it is new address-policy rules i was not aware of !
This is not "new rules" but "ICANN folly that we're in the process of changing" (and this has taken far too long already). Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 71007 (66629) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
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