Re: [GLOBAL-V6] New draft available: IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Global Policy
From: Gert Doering <gert@Space.Net> Subject: Re: [GLOBAL-V6] New draft available: IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Global Policy Hi, On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 05:17:41PM +0000, Carlos Friacas wrote: > The following are some of my personal views about it... > > I agree with almost all of Gert's views on this, my only doubt goes to > the "2000 figure". Isnt it a bit small? Why not look at the actual routing > table, and project things a bit further? Why not multiply it by 5 or 6? The figure was not chosen in any highly scientific way. It is a figure that is "large enough that nearly every active LIR today can get an IPv6 allocation NOW" (having somewhat over 3000 LIRs in RIPE land, of which some are not active any more, others have merged, and so on), while at the other hand being small enough so that *if* this turns out to be a mistake, it means "6000 'IPv6 swamp' prefixes in the global routing table", and this is something the routers can handle. I just want to be clear. My understanding of what happened in the meeting wasn't that each existing LIR could get one, but anyone who became an LIR could get one. This means that existing LIRs can indeed get one, but so can anyone who is willing to become an LIR. That was my understanding. ---CJ
Hi, On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:25:46PM -0800, CJ Wittbrodt wrote:
It is a figure that is "large enough that nearly every active LIR today can get an IPv6 allocation NOW" (having somewhat over 3000 LIRs in RIPE land, of which some are not active any more, others have merged, and so on), while at the other hand being small enough so that *if* this turns out to be a mistake, it means "6000 'IPv6 swamp' prefixes in the global routing table", and this is something the routers can handle.
I just want to be clear. My understanding of what happened in the meeting wasn't that each existing LIR could get one, but anyone who became an LIR could get one. This means that existing LIRs can indeed get one, but so can anyone who is willing to become an LIR. That was my understanding.
Yes, this is what was agreed upon. Every LIR, no matter whether old or new, could get a /32 by asking for it. I do not think that this will lead to a "land rush" on /32s (to answer that concern en passant). Why should it? What's the benefit for an end site? Most of the companies that want to be "independent" will find one way or the other to achieve this - either by announcing /48s all over the region and possibly the world, or by opening a LIR, or by claiming they want to be soooo multihomed (and maybe setting up a peering with some other "independent" company to prove it). We have to be able to solve *this* - teach 'em that BGP multihoming with "PI" space is just one of many solutions, and develop more attractive solutions - instead of hindering IPv6 progress any further. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 71770 (72395) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
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