Users turning off IPv6 because of YouTube
Hello list, I've came across a new reason people are turning off IPv6 on their computers. Looks like GeoIP restrictions of YouTube are somehow broken making some videos playable over IPv4 but 'not accessible from your country' over IPv6. For example this music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XYEeD1A1U is perfectly playable from addresses: 147.32.0.0/16 and 195.113.0.0/16 but not playable from 2001:718::/32 The network is deployed as native dualstack and both address families are correctly registered in the RIPE database to Prague. I guess there's probably nothing we can do from the network operator's point of view. Anyone experiencing the same? Cheers, Ondřej Caletka CESNET
On 14/01/16 17:14, Ondřej Caletka wrote:
Hello list,
I've came across a new reason people are turning off IPv6 on their computers. Looks like GeoIP restrictions of YouTube are somehow broken making some videos playable over IPv4 but 'not accessible from your country' over IPv6.
For example this music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XYEeD1A1U is perfectly playable from addresses: 147.32.0.0/16 and 195.113.0.0/16 but not playable from 2001:718::/32
The network is deployed as native dualstack and both address families are correctly registered in the RIPE database to Prague.
I guess there's probably nothing we can do from the network operator's point of view. Anyone experiencing the same?
No, the video plays fine here from both v4 and v6. It might be worth getting in contact with Google to get GeoIP fixed for that allocation. Timo --------------- XS4ALL Techteam
Hello Ondřej,
-----Original Message----- Hello list,
I've came across a new reason people are turning off IPv6 on their computers. Looks like GeoIP restrictions of YouTube are somehow broken making some videos playable over IPv4 but 'not accessible from your country' over IPv6.
For example this music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XYEeD1A1U is perfectly playable from addresses: 147.32.0.0/16 and 195.113.0.0/16 but not playable from 2001:718::/32
The network is deployed as native dualstack and both address families are correctly registered in the RIPE database to Prague.
I guess there's probably nothing we can do from the network operator's point of view. Anyone experiencing the same?
We're an satellite operator with customers from all over the world. We had a similar issue. Google geo location for IPv6 seems to work on /32 boundaries by default (RIPE country/language and more specific RIPE entries seem to be ignored). This caused our /32 to move between various countries all over the world. We're in the process of submitting our geo location information to google (You've to register your AS in order to get access to their ISP portal: https://isp.google.com/). We don't know if it will fix the problem for good as it's apparently just one of many factors. If your users are all from CZ you might want to ask them to allow google search to access their phone GPS for positioning, that seems to be an important factor. You might also want to try https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip but it didn't work for us. Best Regards, Freddy
Hello, I saw the same situation but in Latam, specifically in Costa Rica.., ironically the result of: curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping and curl -6 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping Was the same geo-loc. Of course our suggestion was to report it using a google online form. Bye, Alejandro, El 1/14/2016 a las 12:13 PM, Frederik Kriewitz escribió:
Hello Ondřej,
-----Original Message----- Hello list,
I've came across a new reason people are turning off IPv6 on their computers. Looks like GeoIP restrictions of YouTube are somehow broken making some videos playable over IPv4 but 'not accessible from your country' over IPv6.
For example this music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XYEeD1A1U is perfectly playable from addresses: 147.32.0.0/16 and 195.113.0.0/16 but not playable from 2001:718::/32
The network is deployed as native dualstack and both address families are correctly registered in the RIPE database to Prague.
I guess there's probably nothing we can do from the network operator's point of view. Anyone experiencing the same? We're an satellite operator with customers from all over the world. We had a similar issue. Google geo location for IPv6 seems to work on /32 boundaries by default (RIPE country/language and more specific RIPE entries seem to be ignored). This caused our /32 to move between various countries all over the world. We're in the process of submitting our geo location information to google (You've to register your AS in order to get access to their ISP portal: https://isp.google.com/). We don't know if it will fix the problem for good as it's apparently just one of many factors. If your users are all from CZ you might want to ask them to allow google search to access their phone GPS for positioning, that seems to be an important factor.
You might also want to try https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip but it didn't work for us.
Best Regards, Freddy
Dne 14.1.2016 v 18:42 Alejandro Acosta napsal(a):
Hello, I saw the same situation but in Latam, specifically in Costa Rica.., ironically the result of:
curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping and curl -6 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping
Was the same geo-loc. Of course our suggestion was to report it using a google online form.
Thanks Alejandro and others. Incidentely, today all videos are playing well over IPv6. Correlation or causality? We'll never know :) The result of the two CUR"s is like this: $ curl -4 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping 147.32.30.16 => cesnet-prg1 (147.32.28.0/22) [u] $ curl -6 http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping 2001:718:2:40::16 => cesnet-prg1 (2001:718::/32) Now, the only remaining problem is to make the users re-enable IPv6. But this will probably not happen unless there is some real IPv6-only content (not only pages like https://www.doesnotwork.eu :) ) Cheers Ondřej Caletka
Content OK from UK. Think you need to contact YouTube regarding their geo-ip database entry, assuming they have their own database Sent from my IPv6-only smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Ondřej Caletka <Ondrej.Caletka@cesnet.cz> Date: 14/01/2016 16:15 (GMT+00:00) To: ipv6-wg@ripe.net Subject: [ipv6-wg] Users turning off IPv6 because of YouTube Hello list, I've came across a new reason people are turning off IPv6 on their computers. Looks like GeoIP restrictions of YouTube are somehow broken making some videos playable over IPv4 but 'not accessible from your country' over IPv6. For example this music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XYEeD1A1U is perfectly playable from addresses: 147.32.0.0/16 and 195.113.0.0/16 but not playable from 2001:718::/32 The network is deployed as native dualstack and both address families are correctly registered in the RIPE database to Prague. I guess there's probably nothing we can do from the network operator's point of view. Anyone experiencing the same? Cheers, Ondřej Caletka CESNET NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the above-named person(s). If you are not the intended recipient, notify the sender immediately, delete this email from your system and do not disclose or use for any purpose. We may monitor all incoming and outgoing emails in line with current legislation. We have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, but it remains your responsibility to ensure that viruses do not adversely affect you. EE Limited Registered in England and Wales Company Registered Number: 02382161 Registered Office Address: Trident Place, Mosquito Way, Hatfield, Hertfordshire, AL10 9BW.
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Alejandro Acosta -
Frederik Kriewitz -
Heatley, Nick -
Ondřej Caletka -
Timo Hilbrink