Gert Doering wrote: As a side note: nothing prevents you from making better usage of a /32 - 7100 users is the minimum value you have to document to get a bigger block. Depending on the way the internal network hierarchy works (if it has few levels, and all entities at one level are similarily sized) it is perfectly allowed to utilize 20.000 /48s or more :-) - it all depends on your network structure.
Pekka, I don't know how you came with these figures but Gert is absolutely right. The HD of a dial pool or tunnel pool depends on two things: 1. The HD of the hardware itself, as there are some strong operational incentives to allocate a block per device, such as allocating a block of 256 sites to an access server that has only 192 modems. 2. The network structure. For a dial pool that size, there is absolutely no need for more than one level of aggregation (that would be the pop level). The device with the worst HD I have used is Cisco AS5400, it has 648 modems and it is temping to allocate a block of 1,024 sites to it. That device itself has a HD of 0.934. Then you have the pop aggregate. In a single pop, the worst you can have is 33 of these boxes. This is 21384 sites on a /32, which is a HD of 0.899. On a 3-pop setup, the worst you would have 9 boxes per pop, which still is 17,496 sites and a HD of 0.881. This is the absolute worst case scenario. The bottom line is that a typically organized /32 dial pool has up to 40k sites. Michel.
On Sat, 11 May 2002, Michel Py wrote:
2. The network structure. For a dial pool that size, there is absolutely no need for more than one level of aggregation (that would be the pop level).
In practise, we could also be talking about two levels: one delegation to the university, and dial/DSL/etc. portion of the block there.
On a 3-pop setup, the worst you would have 9 boxes per pop, which still is 17,496 sites and a HD of 0.881. This is the absolute worst case scenario.
The bottom line is that a typically organized /32 dial pool has up to 40k sites.
/32 allocated _specifically_ for dialup/DSL/whatever (and *not at all* for infrastructure) has this very useful quality. This is very I advocate separate, "earmarked" blocks for dialup/DSL/whatever, if it is done in such a big scale that /48 for organization or /32 for an ISP would not be enough. If you just give out an /32 which should be used for everything, I think the problem is more serious. One can not know beforehand how big a block of that /32 must be reserved to dialup/DSL/whatever. And after it is reserved, what if there is a need to expand? These things do happen within a time span of 2-3 years. This is where HD ratio is useful. -- Pekka Savola "Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall" Systems. Networks. Security. -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords
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