Hi, I tried to test the experiment network on Friday as well. And kinda failed. On 17/05/14 21:18, Jen Linkova wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Roger Jørgensen <rogerj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for organizing it, it just worked ;)
What would be really awesome is to stop announcing that network as 'an experiment'. My understanding is that we need 1) [hardest part] get smth better than 'best effort' support level; 2) change the password from 'iknowbesteffort' 3) stop calling it 'experimental' in public 4) tell people that if smth does not work they should fall back to the 'standard' network and see if it helps.
I'm not suggesting making it a default network at the current stage but I think that it is mature enough to move out of 'experimental' phase. We could call it 'pilot', 'canary' or '1st phase of rollout' ;) I totally agree we should move forwards. I also agree with your points above, but then we have something called reality, an annoying thing
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> wrote: that slow down progress...
This time the reality is that as long as Android can't connect to a IPv6 only network without some manual hack it is a no-go there. I think I need to clarify: I'm *NOT* suggesting making v6-only network a default one, deprecate dual-stack SSID or anything like that. I propose just to change the way we are calling it and get official support. That's it. I think getting some support from the NCC OPS would be a great thing.
Why I kinda failed to use the IPv6 only network was because there was something weird going on. I would connect to it, I would get an IPv6 address, the IPv6 address would then change (in a few seconds) to an other IPv6 address (as shown in the System Preferences -> Network on my Mac) and then the mac would say that I do not have a working connection. Second weird thing was that from time to time, over the same IPv6 only network I would get an IPv4 IP address from the conference network. The OPSie that was next to me when I was trying to troubleshoot this problem tried to contact MarcoH, but unfortunately MarcoH went offline a few minutes after the OPSie msg'ed him and we did not have the chance to really understand what was not working.
However - on a more serious note. We might consider to stop calling it an experiment as a starter. Then we could see if it's possible for the RIPE tech staff to run it for the next meeting. The password could stay the same so it's clear to people that it's not an official network just yet, it's a pilot, pre-release or something. OK, so you agree with all my suggestions except for changing the password? Well, I think we can reach a consensus then ;)
Then we could reevaluate how things worked out and what is missing before it can become a permanent thing... ? Absolutely.
go for it, it will help people understand what breaks in their network. The only reason I was trying to test the IPv6 only network is to make sure that all our (V4Escrow) services are v6 capable. I even found out that the mail server was v6 capable but only over SMTP (and not IMAP) due to a configuration bug. Therefore, thumbs up for the effort, I managed to get something fixed ;) cheers, elvis