-----Original Message----- From: Hans Petter Holen [mailto:hph@oslo.net] Sent: 28. november 2005 19:16 Jørgen Hovland wrote:
- 1. No PI. _Only_ network operators get a prefix.
I am an operator of a network - do I get a prefix ? (we have lots of computers and need lots of IP addresses: currently the 5 PCs, 2 printers, a phone and some PDA and a server online)
I guess you need to define the criteria in some other way. Perhaps beeing registered with the national regulator
True. The existing RIPE 200 customer rule for ipv6 PA for instance.
2. Customers of network operators can at any time change provider and take their assigned prefix with them. The new provider will announce it as a more specific overriding the aggregate. If the customer decides to get multiple providers, then the network operator with the /32 could also announce a more specific.
In the country I live in I can change telecom provider and take my phone number with me to the new provider. Why shouldn't I be able to do that with internet providers?
Maybe we live in the same country ? We sure do (well at least since a few months ago)!
The National Reference DataBase NRDB will take care of the routing (http://www.nrdb.no - at some point in time I guess they will move to ENUM - so perhaps jump directly to such a solution. But then it will be more difficult to implement the payment model they have. (It costs the operator more to be connected to this database than to get IP addressess from RIPE in addition there is a quarterly service fee to port numbers and even a per lookup fee)
Yes, it will somehow create millions/billions of prefixes (atleasat with todays routing technology/protocols). Network operators should be able to handle that hence rule #1.
Why should my last provider carry my traffic after I switch provider ? In POTS this may work because there is elaborate interconnect agreements between the providers - I dont know of too may ISPs doing pr user accounting of transit any more.
The only thing the last provider has to pay for is the LIR fee for their /32, not the traffic. More specific routes usually get priority unless Andres magic 32 constant is implemented. I was talking about putting these prefixes in dfz or not. You decide by the amount of interconnections you got. Then you would also probably have to decide a payment model, but it is not my business what you do.
From the consumer point of view - this is great - from a routing point of view and ISP interconnect point of view - I am not quite sure...
Yes thats a question I wasnt even sure about myself. Cheers, Joergen Hovland