On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 11:45:45AM +0200, Francis Dupont wrote:
=> I think the issue is not with UNI-C but with Nordunet which is a NREN and doesn't follow the standard ISP way to do business (of course, a NREN doesn't do business :-).
Let me just correct a slight misunderstanding here: Nordunet is a cooperation between a number of NRENs in the nordic countries such as Sunet (SE), Uninett (NO), FUNET (FI) and FSKNET (DK). FSKNET is run by Uni-C. Thus it is FSKNET that is the NREN and ISP. It's not very important, but we might as well get it right :-)
=> IMHO the main reason of this problem comes from the fact that Nordunet is a NREN, not a real/standard ISP.
I honestly have a hard time seeing the difference between an NREN that provides about 100K (rough estimate) users in about 200 institutions with IP, DNS and other network services, maintains its own backbone, peers at the relevant peering points and so on and a "regular ISP". The main difference is that there's a defined limit to our customer base, as we can't go and compete in the commercial market, but has to stay within the research and education world. That limit is hardly relevant to our place in the Internet fabric. Peter B. Juul, Uni�C (PBJ255-RIPE)