Dear Philip, Philip Homburg wrote at 29.03.2017 14:44:
Hi Jan,
In your letter dated Wed, 29 Mar 2017 08:14:59 +0200 you wrote:
You would be surprised how many residential customers still have CPE in bridge mode and are connecting to PPPoE service using Windows (or any other OS) PC using a PPPoE dialer, some of them even using multiple parallel PPPoE sessions from multiple computers sitting on the same network.
I literally do not know of a single case where somebody around me was running ppp on Windows 7 (or later) or on a recent version of MacOS. That just doesn't seem to happen around here (in .nl).
I 've seen them here (.de) in the field as i have had a projekt to replace old BRAS with newer BNG about two years ago. All of them have been ADSL customers using PPPoE. So it turned out that it would absolutly neccessary to build the config on the BNG with SLAAC using a /64 per customer as their WAN Prefix.
Note that the ISP I'm using hands out FritzBox CPEs which officially do not even support bridging a VDSL connection.
That's absolutly correct for VDSL customer, but if you still have to support ADSL you most likely run into trouble without supporting SLAAC and a /64.
Do ISPs officially support this?
Yes, we do so.
Are there ISPs that describe how to put a DSL model in bridge mode and the configure Windows 10 to connect?
Can't tell about this Windows 10 thingie and to be honnest i have not researched all versions from all OS out in the field. But i have seen Windows, Linux and MacOS at the time of migration.
How does that work with iphones, android, etc. Do people bridge PPPoE to wifi and then run PPPoE on a phone or tablet?
Most likely they do not do that on a phone or a tablet. Using a router and WiFi on the LAN seems to be more common in that case.
How did multiple sessions work with IPv4. Did every session get its own public IPv4 address using PPP IPCP?
Only speaking for my employe: Multiple Sessions are not supported on residential PPPoE access. Only one PPPoE Session per customer is supported. Best Regards. Matthias Kluth Senior Network Consultant HeLi NET Telekommunikation GmbH & Co. KG Hafenstr. 80-82 D-59067 Hamm Tel.: +49 (0)2381 / 874-4502 Fax: +49 (0)2381 / 874-4551 Mobil: +49 (0)173 / 5411102 Email: mk@helinet.de Web: http://www.helinet.de -- HeLi NET Telekommunikation GmbH & Co. KG Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hamm - Amtsgericht Hamm HRA 1881 Komplementaerin: HeLi NET Verwaltung GmbH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hamm - Amtsgericht Hamm HRB 2781 Geschaeftsfuehrung: Dipl.-Kfm. Ralf Schuette