On Sat, 11 May 2002, Pekka Savola wrote:
On Sat, 11 May 2002, Michel Py wrote:
Pekka Savola wrote: I don't think university-like organizations ever need more than a /48. One and the only really problematic thing is if they provide access to students/staff/etc., e.g. via DSL, dial-up, dorms or what. /64 would usually be ok (except very large universities and the like), /48 would not.
Universities are ISPs
Usually not entitled to address space, based on current policy (not being LIR, peering reqs, ...). Universities may not even have an AS number.
Interesting question is getting the number of them that *already* have one! Of course i know some cases... But discussing this at this level, gives a good idea about how NRENs (that have ASNs, and *are* ISPs) should solve their eventual "numbering" problem...
, and it is perfectly legitimate to assign /48s to students.
Sure, if there is space to assign it from..
NRENs should have it, assign them to universities and then universities can distribute it... "Direct" assign by NRENs to students doesnt seem very sensible...
Pekka, I am sorry but this is wrong. One of the valuable participants we have in ipv6mh is Craig Huegen, the lead network architect for Cisco, and the _first_ question he asked about the protocols we are developing is how they would work for people that need more than a /48. With an HD of 0.8 Cisco needs between a /46 and a /45.
I'd like to see how they're going to spend them.
Note: if you use /64 for Point-to-Point links, this may be quite easy.
We still dont have a clear guideline/BCP on this???
Gert Doering: So with some reason instead of a "this can't work!" attitude, I think this can work well - if one insists on doing non-useful things, it will break (but yes, this is a problem with the "one site" = /48 rule, because it's too vague to work unless people are reasonable).
Yes, the "one site" = /48 rule leads to terrible HD, but a university with 50K students would indeed fit within a /32. The question is: will people be reasonable.
On a normal day, i should say: NO! Some (misinformed) people tend to look at IP(whatever) addresses as a resource. Unfortunately this "some people" tends to be the majority... :-( ./Carlos "Networking is fun!" ------------------- http://www.fccn.pt <cfriacas@fccn.pt>, CMF8-RIPE, CF596-ARIN, Wide Area Network Workgroup F.C.C.N. - Fundacao para a Computacao Cientifica Nacional fax: +351 218472167