On 18 May 2015, at 1:27, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 04:49:29PM +0000, Benedikt Stockebrand wrote:
Yes, of course you are right that this is a complex issue, but there's a widespread tendency to carry the old limitations of today's IPv4 to IPv6 even if there's no real need to do so. And Marc calling NAT64 a working solution despite the fact that it breaks IPv6 the same way NAT broke IPv4 really asks to be balanced by a similarly oversimplified statement going the other way:-)
Actually, the whole point is that NAT64 does not touch IPv6, so it is not "breaking IPv6" - it ensures that IPv4 legacy is still reachable, even if you're inside an IPv6-only network.
Which sounds quite positive to me, given the alternative is "run dual-stack everywhere, forever, because someone out there might still be IPv4-only"...
Right. NAT64-DNS64, while not perfect, is to me the only viable solution to move from where we are now to IPv6 in a cost effective manner. Running dual-stack is not cost-effective, while ipv6-only could be. When we first talked about NAT64 a while ago, I hated it. But I became fast convinced that it is a very important tool to move to IPv6. Marc.
Carriers can't "just turn off IPv4" if users still connect to IPv4-only sites... so what is worse, NAT44/CGN and dual-stack all the way to the client, or nice and shiny IPv6-only at the edges, and NAT64 for talking to the old Internet?
Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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