Hi, On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 07:22:09PM +0100, Dave Wilson wrote:
- and again: there have been enough NREN representatives at the RIPE meeting, and I can't remember hearing loud arguments from them against the new policy. There have been questions, and concerns, but most of them have been convinced that the new policy is an improvement, [snip]
For the record, I raised a point at the lir-wg, on behalf of HEAnet and something that has met with agreement from other NREN personnel. The requirement for 200 sites, regardless of density to the right of the /48 boundary, is very onerous.
And if I remember correctly, it was voiced clearly that the "200" is by no means a hard figure - if someone demonstrates the clear wish (and process) in assigning to "more than a hand ful" of different organizations, it is not meant that the allocation should be taken back again. I still haven't heard why this should be so difficult for an NREN. Just assign /48s to sufficiently small "end sites". Define "end site" according to your needs - there is no formal official definition (except maybe "a /48 only to those that need more than one subnet").
However from other discussions it appears that the consequences of rejecting the policy would have been truly dire for some in the APNIC region, so no one wanted to derail the process just for this; instead I think it was recorded as approved, with the acknowledgement that further work needs to be done.
Especially as the old policy was no better for anybody. It has been clearly said that this is an *interim* policy. So feel free to suggest better criteria to achieve: - everybody that wants to connect a substantive amount of other entities ("end sites") to the IPv6 world can get an allocation - end sites will NOT get an allocation (there is a strong voice from the ARIN region and some agreement from the APNIC people on that point) If we can find something that will fulfill both criteria but not have a "200" in it, I'll be happy to see it thrown out, but nevertheless I think the current policy is a big improvement and should be fine for anybody (except end sites that want to do BGP multihome and their own allocation - but yes, those aren't meant to get one). Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 45114 (45077) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299