Hi Daniel, I need to speak a little about a working group chair's duties, so I kind of have to wear that hat, but please consider this as a voice in the discussion and not a chair's influence on it. On 12/08/2015 16:17, Daniel Baeza (Red y Sistemas TVT) wrote:
As Im saying in the other lists, im not talking about replacing the list, just complementing it.
Everything that already is done in the list, will be done on the list. But there are things (like discussing this) that can happen in a more real time discussions and if after that, something comes up then is mailed here.
I think my point is very clear and everybody is missunderstanding it but since english is not my best, maybe Im not clear enough as I thought :(
I do believe I understand the intent here. But right now, as co-chair, if I have to make a consensus call, it's very clear to everyone (including me) what has to be done: understand the discussion on the mailing list. Everyone knows that to participate you must be on the list, so we can assume that everyone is present for the discussion. So I believe the problem statement is this: if a policy discussion happens elsewhere than the mailing list, we need to be clear about who is expected (not just invited) to participate, and how that is evaluated in the final discussion. At this moment, if I knew there was a supported venue where policy discussion was taking place, it's not clear to me if I would be expected to chair and monitor the discussion there, and how I should handle a situation where there is consensus in one venue, and disagreement in another. But this is a solveable problem. We do it at RIPE meetings - we take minutes at the meetings, which are published to the list, and frequently remind ourselves that decisions are taken on the list. And if some of us talk about policy amongst ourselves, over dinner say, then we know that as far as the discussion and consensus is concerned, "if we don't take it to the list, it didn't happen." So how would that be solved in the case of a live chat discussion? All the best, Dave -- Dave Wilson, Service Desk Manager web: www.heanet.ie HEAnet Ltd, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin 1 tel: +353-1-660-9040 Registered in Ireland, no 275301 fax: +353-1-660-3666