Hi, On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:25:46PM -0800, CJ Wittbrodt wrote: > It is a figure that is "large enough that nearly every active LIR today > can get an IPv6 allocation NOW" (having somewhat over 3000 LIRs in RIPE > land, of which some are not active any more, others have merged, and so > on), while at the other hand being small enough so that *if* this > turns out to be a mistake, it means "6000 'IPv6 swamp' prefixes in the > global routing table", and this is something the routers can handle. > > I just want to be clear. My understanding of what happened in the > meeting wasn't that each existing LIR could get one, but anyone who > became an LIR could get one. This means that existing LIRs can > indeed get one, but so can anyone who is willing to become an LIR. > That was my understanding. Yes, this is what was agreed upon. Every LIR, no matter whether old or new, could get a /32 by asking for it. I do not think that this will lead to a "land rush" on /32s (to answer that concern en passant). Why should it? What's the benefit for an end site? It gives them a provider block that won't be filtered. If they're multihomed this is a benefit. Most of the companies that want to be "independent" will find one way or the other to achieve this - either by announcing /48s all over the region and possibly the world, or by opening a LIR, or by claiming they want to be soooo multihomed (and maybe setting up a peering with some other "independent" company to prove it). We have to be able to solve *this* - teach 'em that BGP multihoming with "PI" space is just one of many solutions, and develop more attractive solutions - instead of hindering IPv6 progress any further. Why would they justify or claim anything? They can just become an LIR with no justification and get a /32. ---CJ