On Fri, 4 Oct 2019, Michel Py wrote:
Hi Carlos,
Carlos Friaças wrote : We have to acknowledge "IPv6 zealots" are real. Disclaimer: i think i was part of that group some years ago.
Indeed, and so was I. WAS.
But Mr.Rey's reference about IPv6 deployment rates also makes a good point!
Nobody cares about deployment rates. What good does it do, if people don't use it ? This is more realistic : https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html During the week, we are below 25%.
So...? Things move slowly, but they are moving. IPv6 in terms of volume is still a long way behind IPv4.
We also have to acknowledge "IPv4 zealots" are real.
And they are the ones with the money. The lobbyists. The connections. The banana peels. The 75% market share. The IPv4 zealots have not always been there; they have been created as a reaction to the nonsense of the IPv6 zealots.
Admitting that "zealotism" is not a got thing might be a good 1st step.
IPv6 replacing IPv4 is a delusion.
Same can be said about the oil-driven economy, however...
3 months ago, I turned DECNET off on my network. It was actually not even an IT/network decision; customer decided they were done with a product, and we de-commissioned the tools with DECNET. Business decision. We run OS/2 Warp, MS-DOS, Windows 95, HPUX, Solaris, Windows 2000, and I probably forget some.
So, hardly any IPv6 there :-)
In 20 years, I will still need IPv4.
Sure, if IPv6 doesn't become dominant.
And I have enough IPv4 on my hands for the foreseeable future. I bought some recently, just in case.
The "foreseeable future" is also a bit uncertain :-) If a new project pops up that will need 10x the public address space you have... good luck. But yes, a thick wallet might solve it... Cheers, Carlos
I encourage the WG group to read this : https://www.internetgovernance.org/2019/02/20/report-on-ipv6-get-ready-for-a... And the full text : https://www.internetgovernance.org/wp-content/uploads/IPv6-Migration-Study-f... Serious work, paid by ICANN.
Michel.