Hi, On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 11:14:47PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
By the way, what happened to 2003::/19? A /19 for just a few dozen /48s?
I'm not sure what you smoked today, but it must have been something funny. Who claims that the /19 is "for a few dozen /48s"?
The RIPE WHOIS server does. Well, they still have got a year to carry out their promised business plan involving 200 assignments.
Well, you might have noticed the ongoing discussion about the usefulness (and the legality) of putting residential end-user's data into the RIPE DB. The relevant document (ripe-267) actually doesn't mandate to use the *RIPE DB* for registration - it mandates ------------ snip ----------- 3.3. Registration Internet address space must be registered in a registry database accessible to appropriate members of the Internet community. This is necessary to ensure the uniqueness of each Internet address and to provide reference information for Internet troubleshooting at all levels, ranging from all RIRs and IRs to End Users. The goal of registration should be applied within the context of reasonable privacy considerations and applicable laws. ------------ snip ----------- so most people seem to agree that it's valid to put "this /<x> is for residential users, if there is anything wrong, please contact our abuse desk, telephon number 12345" into the database (and produce more detailed documentation to the RIPE NCC if you ask for more space).
In the short run maybe, but that's not the goal anyway.
Huh? The goal is 200 assignments within two years.
No, this is one of the criteria to get address space *at all* (have a *plan* for 200 customers - which is reasonable to assume if you're rolling out IPv6 and have a customer base of some million users). For larger allocations than a /32, of course the plan is to give IPv6 addresses to a significantly larger number of end sites - so that a /32 would not be large enough.
If it were strictly enforced, LIRs would simply assign prefixes to their employees (and if there aren't enough, to their pets), but this is probably not in the spirit of that rule.
To me, this just illustrates that LIRs are as good as end users when it comes to responsibility for global resource consumption.
The main difference (to spoil your pet peeve) is that for a LIR, it's very likely that you'll see "one prefix in the routing table for many organizations", while for an end user you'll see "one prefix per end user". Which supposedly makes a difference. (NB: basing this whole "I want to bash someone!" thread on a */19*, which requires fairly thorough justification, seems really farfetched to me) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 92315 SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 D- 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-234