Hi Arash True - but this changes if a mobile terminal is used as modem by a PC. In this case, a /64 will be given to the PC, right? My question was whether RIPE NCC would allocate a IPv6 TLA to a mobile operator who is not acting as ISP (only having subscribers for this GPRS/UMTS and evt. WLAN service). -> would this operator get the TLA (although conditions c) and d) are not fulfilled)? best regards andreas
-----Original Message----- From: Arash Ashouriha [mailto:arash.ashouriha@vodafone.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2002 10:08 To: Schmid Andreas, INO-ITA Cc: ipv6-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] IPv6 TLAs for mobile operators
Hi there,
A single terminal or mobile device should get /127 and not /64 ! /64 is for 1 network. If the customer need more than 1 Network, he may get /48.
Best regards
Arash Ashouriha
Andreas.Schmid1@swisscom.com schrieb:
Hi
I am new to this list - hope I do not touch a topic that has been discussed different times in here....
I wonder how mobile operators receive IPv6 address allocations from RIPE NCC? The IPv6 policy paper (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv6policy.html) includes 4 conditions: a) be an LIR; b) not be an end site; c) plan to provide IPv6 connectivity to organisations to which it will assign /48s, by advertising that connectivity through its single aggregated address allocation; and d) have a plan for making at least 200 /48 assignments to other organisations within two years.
Mobile operators fulfill a) and b). But since mobile operators will probably give /64 addresses to their users (a single mobile terminal), they don't fulfill c) and d) - if they are not a traditional ISP in parallel.
-> how does RIPE treat IPv6 TLA requests from pure mobile operators?
thanks for any answer Andreas
PS: one might argue that the mobile operators will give a
/48 for each mobile terminal. But this would mean that a /32 gives them only 65k mobile terminals to address! A large mobile operator haveing more than 10 Mio customers would need 2^24 addresses resulting in a /24! Is this what is intended to be given to a mobile operator from RIPE? I don't think so....