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Discussion about "Why Is This IPv6 Transition Taking So long?"
by Christian Seitz 16 Nov '24

16 Nov '24

Dear IPv6 WG list members, we had a very packed agenda in our last session in Prague. Therefore we unfortunately did not have so much time for questions and longer discussions. Thanks again to all of the presenters! More than a week has passed now and I heard very different, opposing opinions about one of the presentations. Geoff Huston was talking about "Why Is This IPv6 Transition Taking So long" [1]. Shortly before the RIPE89 meeting Geoff published a related article [2] in the APNIC blog. What do you think about Geoffs presentation? Did the Internet change and do we have to adjust our expectations? Do you agree to the fact that we now have "A Network of Names" and are using a lot of CDNs to bring content to the End Users and therefore perhaps do not need to do more IPv6 migration or do you think we all should find a way to somehow speed up the IPv6 migration around the world to enable end-to-end communication between all devices again? [1] https://ripe89.ripe.net/archives/video/1493/ [2] https://blog.apnic.net/2024/10/22/the-ipv6-transition/ Thanks and kind regards from Berlin Chris

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Re: ipv6-wg Digest, Vol 150, Issue 2
by dana yazdani 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

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Re: ipv6-wg Digest, Vol 149, Issue 8
by dana yazdani 08 Nov '24

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در تاریخ جمعه ۸ نوامبر ۲۰۲۴، ۰۴:۲۱ <ipv6-wg-request(a)ripe.net> نوشت: > Send ipv6-wg mailing list submissions to > ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > ipv6-wg-request(a)ripe.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ipv6-wg-owner(a)ripe.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ipv6-wg digest..."Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: deliverable: ACCOUNT NUMBER IBAN NUMBER BANK MELLAT Re:info > document bankmellat Account iban Number:IR170120010000003315992937transfer > money cash rule Rial Iranian Amount 20C000R % 20,000,000,443,222 Rial > iranian cash rule Send to bank refah Iban number:ACCOUNT NUMBER IBAN NUMBER > BANK MELLAT:IR17 0120 0100 0000 3315 9929 37 Re:info document bankmellat > Account Number:IR1701200200000033159945sAmount 20C000R % 20,000,000,443,222 > Rial iranian cash rule Send to bank refah Iban > number:IR580130100000000069835408 name qader zarh Ahmad Abad delavirabely > including status ⁹ name: qader zarh Ahmad⁸⁰ Abad delavirabely including > status accepted confirmation relezsŕ⁵ > (dana yazdani) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: dana yazdani <danayazdani8(a)gmail.com> > To: ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 04:20:06 +0330 > Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: deliverable: ACCOUNT NUMBER IBAN NUMBER BANK > MELLAT Re:info document bankmellat Account iban > Number:IR170120010000003315992937transfer money cash rule Rial Iranian > Amount 20C000R % 20,000,000,443,222 Rial iranian cash rule Send to bank > refah Iban number:ACCOUNT NUMBER IBAN NUMBER BANK MELLAT:IR17 0120 0100 > 0000 3315 9929 37 Re:info document bankmellat Account > Number:IR1701200200000033159945sAmount 20C000R % 20,000,000,443,222 Rial > iranian cash rule Send to bank refah Iban number:IR580130100000000069835408 > name qader zarh Ahmad Abad delavirabely including status ⁹ name: qader zarh > Ahmad⁸⁰ Abad delavirabely including status accepted confirmation relezsŕ⁵ > > > در تاریخ جمعه ۸ نوامبر ۲۰۲۴، ۰۲:۲۴ < > postmaster(a)accountprotection.microsoft.com> نوشت: > >> postmaster wasn't found at accountprotection.microsoft.com. >> danayazdani8 Office 365 postmaster >> *Action Required* Recipient >> Unknown To address >> >> >> >> *Was this helpful? Send feedback to Microsoft >> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=618497>.* >> ------------------------------ >> >> More Info for Email Admins >> *Status code 554 5.4.14* >> >> Typically this error occurs because the recipient email address is >> incorrect or doesn't exist at the destination domain. This can usually be >> fixed by the sender. However, sometimes the issue needs to be fixed by the >> recipient or the recipient's email admin. If the steps in the *How to >> Fix It* section above don't fix the problem, and you're the email admin >> for the recipient, try one or more of the following: >> >> *The email address exists and is correct* - Confirm that the recipient >> address exists, is correct, and is accepting messages. >> >> *Synchronize your directories* - If you have a hybrid environment and >> are using directory synchronization make sure the recipient's email address >> is synced correctly in both Office 365 and in your on-premises directory. >> >> *Errant forwarding rule* - Check for forwarding rules that aren't >> behaving as expected. A forwarding rule can be configured by an admin via >> mail flow rules or mailbox forwarding address settings, or by the recipient >> via the Inbox Rules feature. >> >> *Mail flow settings and MX records are not correct* - Misconfigured mail >> flow settings or MX records can cause this error. Check your Office 365 >> mail flow settings to make sure your domain and any mail flow connectors >> are set up correctly. Also, work with your domain registrar to make sure >> the MX records for your domain are configured correctly. >> >> *Mail loop detected* - This error also indicates that the receiving >> organization's email settings are misconfigured, creating a mail loop when >> a message is sent to an address that isn't found in their directory. This >> usually won't disrupt mail flow for recipients that actually exist, but the >> recipient's email admin should fix the misconfiguration to reduce the >> chance of any other mail flow issues. A common cause for this loop is that >> the recipient's domain is configured as "Internal Relay" when it should be >> "Authoritative." Another common cause for the loop is that both the sender >> and recipient are part of the same organization, but the sender's mailbox >> is hosted by Office 365, while the recipient's mailbox is hosted >> on-premises, and an outbound connector from Office 365 to the on-premises >> email servers is missing or misconfigured. To fix this, the recipient's >> email admin should create a correctly configured outbound connector in >> Office 365 to route the message to the on-premises mailbox. >> >> >> Original Message Details >> Created Date: 11/7/2024 10:54:01 PM >> Sender Address: danayazdani8(a)gmail.com >> Recipient Address: postmaster(a)accountprotection.microsoft.com >> Subject: Fwd: deliverable: Fwd: deliverable: ACCOUNT NUMBER IBAN NUMBER >> BANK MELLAT Re:info document bankmellat Account iban >> Number:IR170120010000003315992937transfer money cash rule Rial Iranian >> Amount 20C000R % 20,000,000,443,222 Rial iranian cash rule Send to bank >> refah Iban number:ACCOUNT NUMBER IBAN NUMBER BANK MELLAT:IR17 0120 0100 >> 0000 3315 9929 37 Re:info document bankmellat Account >> Number:IR1701200200000033159945sAmount 20C000R % 20,000,000,443,222 Rial >> iranian cash rule Send to bank refah Iban number:IR580130100000000069835408 >> name qader zarh Ahmad Abad delavirabely including status ⁹ name: qader zarh >> Ahmad⁸⁰ Abad delavirabely including status accepted confirmation relezsŕ⁵ >> >> >> *554 5.4.14 Hop count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR34 >> [SJ1PEPF0000231B.namprd03.prod.outlook.com >> <http://SJ1PEPF0000231B.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> 2024-11-07T22:54:29.129Z >> 08DCFBC31D5D02C8]* >> Message by: SJ1PEPF0000231B.mail.protection.outlook.com >> >> Notification Details >> Sent by: *SA2PR16MB4107.namprd16.prod.outlook.com >> <http://SA2PR16MB4107.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>* >> Message Hops >> HOP TIME (UTC) FROM TO WITH RELAY TIME >> 1 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:15 PM Hust Domain mail-pj1-f44.google.com SMTP 14 sec >> 2 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:15 PM mail-pj1-f44.google.com >> BN1PEPF0000468C.mail.protection.outlook.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) * >> 3 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:16 PM BN1PEPF0000468C.namprd05.prod.outlook.com >> BN0PR04CA0130.outlook.office365.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) 1 sec >> 4 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:16 PM BN0PR04CA0130.namprd04.prod.outlook.com >> SJ0PR16MB5013.namprd16.prod.outlook.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) * >> 5 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:20 PM NAM12-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com >> SJ5PEPF000001F3.mail.protection.outlook.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) 4 sec >> 6 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:20 PM SJ5PEPF000001F3.namprd05.prod.outlook.com >> MW4PR03CA0100.outlook.office365.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) * >> 7 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:20 PM MW4PR03CA0100.namprd03.prod.outlook.com >> MW4PR16MB5031.namprd16.prod.outlook.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) * >> 8 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:25 PM NAM12-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com >> SJ5PEPF000001D0.mail.protection.outlook.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) 5 sec >> 9 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:25 PM SJ5PEPF000001D0.namprd05.prod.outlook.com >> SJ0PR05CA0196.outlook.office365.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) * >> 10 11/7/2024 >> 10:54:25 PM SJ0PR05CA0196.namprd05.prod.outlook.com >> SA2PR16MB4107.namprd16.prod.outlook.com Microsoft SMTP Server >> (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) * >> >> Original Message Headers >> >> ARC-Seal: i=5; 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Advent of IPv6
by Jens Link 31 Oct '24

31 Oct '24

Hi, a follow up to my presentation from earlier: Slides here: https://ripe89.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/presentations/103-jl-ripe89-ipv6… There is also a mailing list: https://list.sys4.de/postorius/lists/ipv6-advent-orga.lists.quux.de/ It's up to you where we discuss this further but we should choose one place. ;-) I'm also around in Prague till tomorrow. Jens

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IPv4 sharing ratio (for IPv6-only deployments)
by Yannis Nikolopoulos 30 Oct '24

30 Oct '24

Hello, I was (off-line) watching Richard Patterson's presentation about Sky UK's MAP-T deployment. By the way, this is the kind of presentations we should be seeing more of in RIPE meetings. So anyway, I was taken aback by the IPv4 sharing ratio and I had to do a double take. Richard mentioned that they're using 1:16 in Italy and 1:8 in the UK. In a similar size deployment in Greece (in my previous employer), a few years ago, we had decided on 1:64 (~1000 ports per subscriber) and I'm now wondering if it is outdated or not. Cheers, Yannis

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APRICOT 2025: Call for Program Committee Volunteers
by Mark Tinka 26 Oct '24

26 Oct '24

Hello all. The APRICOT 2025 Organising Committee would like to welcome everyone to join us in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia, from the 19th to the 27th, February 2025. The APRICOT 2025 Programme Committee is responsible for the solicitation and selection of suitable presentations and tutorial content for the APRICOT 2025 conference (https://2025.apricot.net/) We are now seeking VOLUNTEERS from the community to join the APRICOT 2025 PC to assist with the development of the programme for APRICOT 2025. Eligible PC candidates must have attended recent APRICOT events, have broad technical knowledge of Internet operations, and have good familiarity with the format of APRICOT. Having constructive opinions and ideas about how the programme content might be improved is of high value too. PC members are expected to work very actively to solicit content, follow-through for speaker updates and review submissions for technical merit . The PC meets by conference call, weekly in frequency during the three months prior to APRICOT. While participation in the weekly calls is not obligatory, active participation in content reviews is required at all times to help the PC reach consensus. PC members who are unable to fully participate in the programme development will be excused from the PC. If you are interested in joining the PC and meet the above eligibility criteria, please send a brief note to "pc-chairs at apricot.net". The note must include affiliation (if any) and a brief description about why you would make a good addition to the PC. The PC Chairs will accept nominations received by 17:00 UTC+8 on Sunday 27th October 2024, and will announce the new PC shortly thereafter. Many thanks! Mark Tinka, Achie Atienza & Mark Duffell APRICOT 2025 Programme Committee Chairs

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IPv6 WG agenda for RIPE89
by Christian Seitz 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Dear IPv6 working group, we have some great presentations for the IPv6 WG session in Prague. The session will take place on Thursday 31 October 2024 from 9:00 - 10:30 CET. The agenda will also be published in the RIPE89 meeting plan [1] soon. This is our current agenda: 1. Welcome [3 min] * Opening and Welcome * Approval of RIPE 88 Minutes * Microphone Etiquette 2. Why is this IPv6 transition taking so long? [25+5 min] Geoff Huston 3. K8s IPv6 and Routing [15+5 min] Nico Schottelius 4. Advent of IPv6 [10+5 min] Jens Link 5. What we have achieved so far [15+5 min] Benedikt Stockebrand 6. Thanks, Wrap Up and Rate the Talks [2 min] If there are any changes to this agenda we will send an update and also update the meeting plan on the website [1]. [1] https://ripe89.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/ Many thanks also to all of you who suggested a presentation but were unable to present due to the full agenda. On behalf of the IPv6 WG co-chairs, Nico, Ray and Chris

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BCP/BCOP for ipv6 deployment and filtering policy
by Sheikh Md Seum 15 Oct '24

15 Oct '24

Hello all, I'm trying to deploy IPv6 in a small ISP of Italy (AS203847). While going through the deployment procedure I was not able to find any BCP/BCOP regarding how to filter ICMPv6, what standards should be followed. For enterprise there exists RFC7381. Even though there are lot of similarities between enterprise and ISP there exists some differences. Small ISP with less human resource might find security considerations addressed on RFC9099, address planning mentioned in RIPE-690 a bit difficult to follow. So, what is your opinion to create a BCP/BCOP combining all these RFC and make it more easier to follow while deploying IPv6 in an ISP? If something like this already exists or someone already working, it will be really helpful if someone shares. --- Regards Sheikh.

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Presentation Proposal
by Benedikt Stockebrand 15 Oct '24

15 Oct '24

Hi guys, as Chris asked me (some time ago---some things just won't change...) here's a first draft of a proposal for a presentation in Prague: "The road ahead: Where are we with IPv6, and what needs to be done next?" We've been aiming at a 15 minute slot, but as always I've got more than enough to talk about if you have more time to fill. (Ray probably remembers how I prepared a presentation overnight because Fernando hadn't even registered to the meeting in Rotterdam(?) until hours before his slot...) Anyway, what might actually stir up some discussion is that we may get into serious problems with the size of the IPv6 routing table in the default free zone. Cheers, Benedikt -- Business Grade IPv6 Consulting, Training, Projects Stepladder IT Training+Consulting GmbH Benedikt Stockebrand Fichardstr. 38, 60322 Frankfurt/Main Dipl.-Inform./Geschäftsführer HRB 94202, Registergericht Frankfurt/M contact(a)stepladder-it.com http://www.stepladder-it.com/ +49 (0) 69 - 247 512 362 BIVBlog---Benedikt's IT Video Blog: http://www.stepladder-it.com/bivblog/ Bitte kein Spam, keine unaufgeforderten Werbeanrufe, keine telefonischen Umfragen. Anrufe werden ggf. zu rechtlichen Zwecken aufgezeichnet. No spam, no unsolicited sales calls, no telephone surveys, please. Calls may be recorded for legal purposes.

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NL consultation on IPv6
by Romain Bosc 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

Dear all, Flagging that the Dutch Standardisation Forum is having a consultation on IPv6. Here is the link to the consultation and relevant documents (in Dutch): https://internetconsultatie.nl/ipv6/b1 To note, comments in English are also welcomed, and the deadline is on 4 October 2024. In a nutshell, the Standardisation Forum [which supports the Dutch government in the development, use and deployment of open standards] -- is currently assessing the scope of application of the 'apply or explain' list covering IPv6 and whether additional clarification is needed. In this context, a document gathering recommendations from an expert group has been published and is available on the webpage of the consultation. The current scope is: *IPv6 and IPv4 must be applied in combination (‘dual stack’) to communication between applications in (a) network(s).* The expert group recommends clarifying the scope as follows: “*IPv6 must be applied to digital services, such as websites and e-mail servers. In addition, end-user devices must be able to reach websites, applications and other digital services on the Internet via IPv6. If necessary, it is allowed to additionally apply IPv4 (dual stack).*” It also recommends changing the name (caption) on the list from “IPv6 and IPv4” to “IPv6”. Let us know if you have any questions or comments. All best, Romain -- Romain Bosc Sr Public Policy & Governance Officer RIPE NCC E: rbosc(a)ripe.net

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