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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Ipv6 addressing plan tool
by susana.caudelitome＠telefonica-data.com 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hi all. I'm looking for a tool to manage the IPv6 address allocation. Could anyone help me?. Thanks in advance. Regards. Susana. Conozca mejor eBA e-Soluciones de Banda Ancha en http://www.telefonica.es/eba Esperamos su visita en http://www.telefonica-data.es Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario y puede contener informacion privilegiada o confidencial cuya divulgacion esta prohibida en virtud de la legislacion vigente. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma via y proceda a su destruccion.

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] [iesg-secretary@ietf.org: Last Call: 'Delegation of 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa' to BCP]
by David Kessens 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

----- Forwarded message from The IESG <iesg-secretary(a)ietf.org> ----- To: IETF-Announce :; Cc: From: The IESG <iesg-secretary(a)ietf.org> Subject: Last Call: 'Delegation of 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa' to BCP Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:04:24 -0400 The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Delegation of 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa ' <draft-ymbk-6to4-arpa-delegation-00.txt> as a BCP The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the iesg(a)ietf.org or ietf(a)ietf.org mailing lists by 2003-10-12. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ymbk-6to4-arpa-delegation-00.txt ----- End forwarded message ----- David K. ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Draft minutes for ipv6 wg session RIPE45
by David Kessens 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Hi, Please see below for a draft version of the working group minutes for the ipv6 session at RIPE45. I am sorry for the late posting, I only received the minutes right before the last meeting. The minutes will be declared final by Friday September 26, 2003 if I don't receive any comments other than small typos/corrections. Thanks, David K. --- Draft Minutes IPv6 Working Group RIPE 45 The IPv6 Working Group session Wednesday 14 May, 16.30 - 18.30 A. Administrative Stuff: Chair (David Kessens, Nokia) Scribe (Timothy Lowe, RIPE NCC) Actions: 44.1 RIPE NCC Enable reverse delegation for the 6bone Andrei: after much discussion, 6bone will do it for themselves. #Action point closed# 44.2 Bernard Tuy To co-ordinate an IPv6 routing guideline document Discussion ongoing with Marc Blanchet (Hexago) for more comprehensive document. David: this point is being passed to the routing working group. #Action point closed# 44.3 RIPE NCC To investigate with IANA increasing the size of RIR allocations to rationalize routing David: discussion has begun between the parties so we can close this one. Gert Doering (Spacenet): I see at least 3 /23s being delegated in the interim and this is a shame. David: it is a bit tech and a bit policy so I this might need to go to the LIR working group. John Crain: ICANN There are discussions concerning this with the RIRs about a temporary solution. #action point closed#, discussion moved to policy working group 44.4 RIPE NCC Report back to the working group what the status is and what the issues are regarding: - enabling AAAA glue records in the . zone - AAAA glue records for delegations to TLDs - AAAA glue records for the root servers themselves, enabling ipv6 transport to the . zone John: AAAA in the root there are possible issues with too many AAAA records into the root zone. In the lab we are building a root zone with lots of AAAA queries to prove it is safe. We don't believe there will be any issues but we have some requests for this so we have to come back with proof that it is stable before going ahead. The Root server advisory committee will be asked to approve this before the summer. Mohsen Souissi (AFNIC): The request for comments document from IANA was run by myself and I sent IANA my comments. We have no issues for .fr with AAAA glue records under the root zone. Mr Vixie was asked to comment and had no technical issues. We have been waiting for a long time. John: yes I saw that and according to his draft not RFC but draft it has no issues but we have to ensure that it doesn't just work for .fr but for everyone. Also we have had little comment on his draft and no other tech tests of this. However we see that it is a good idea and we want to have this implemented as soon as possible. David: Who needs to sign off on this? John: inet clue elite David: good, it's not lost in the department of commerce. John: No we just have to present solid evidence to the Department of Commerce so they can approve Andrei:we tried to research this by asking Verisign what registrars support AAAA records. They said they don't know. Fortunately our registrar did it and we found that it was only blocked at the root zone. We wanted to change our registrar but the new one had no interest in doing AAAA dns. David: I think others have the same problem can you make public who is willing to do it? Lars-Johan Liman: can we see a way of changing the name on the right hand side of the ns delegation so that it doesn't conflict with the ns.ripe.net. Like ns6.ripe.net (we already have this see www.ripe.net/reverse) Andrei:I agree we should look into this but it was just to clarify that it should be looked into. David: this a DNS issue so we should pass it to them. Ok we should keep action open so we can hear about progress in this area? Good we keep it. B. Status of the 6bone http://www.kessens.com/~david/presentations/ (David Kessens) 6bone registry is now reachable over v6 in all aspects. Draft phase out plan of the addresses has been proposed. The cut off date for allocating ptlas is 20040101 and the date of phase out is 20060606. Some stats are 60 countries with ptlas in the 6bone C. University of Tennessee IPv6 network storage stack http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-45/presentations/ ripe45-ipv6-logistic.pdf (Alessandro Bassi - LoCI - Univ of Tennessee) Logistical networking, which is based on distributed network storage, is a project of the UTK Logistical Computing and Internetworking Lab. The LoCI Lab website: http://loci.cs.utk.edu/ D. Global IPv6 routing table status http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-45/presentations/ ripe45-ipv6-table/ (Gert Doering) Slide 12: Kurtis Lindqvist, Netnod: Can you track which blocks are allocated and which are routed? Also the delay between when the allocation was made and when it was first routed? Gert: My scripts don't do it but I can do that. I will look into it but no promises. Mohsen: Tunis isn't in Europe (refers to slide 15) Gert: sure but its around the mediteranian so around the corner sort of Europe. E. Report(s) about actual v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-45/presentations/ ripe45-tt-ipv6/page1.htm (Henk Uijterwaal, RIPE NCC) The test traffic project is now also able to measure the ipv6 Internet. F. Developments/initiatives in the RIPE region and beyond -Presentation (Bernard Tuy, RENATER) Geant IPv6 service M6bone worldwide deployment and multicast protocols for IPv6 6Net and on going IPv6 experiments G. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (No input from the audience) Z. AOB -----

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Draft minutes for ipv6 wg session RIPE46
by David Kessens 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Hi, Please see below for the draft minutes of the ipv6 wg session at RIPE46. We are still missing a few URLs for presentations. The minutes will be declared final by Friday September 26, 2003 if I don't receive any comments other than small typos and provided that I receive the missing urls for the presentations by that date. I hope this helps, David K. --- Draft minutes for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE46 When: 16:00 - 17:30, Wednesday September 3, 2003 Where: Grand Ballroom, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam Who: Chair: David Kessens Scribe: Pierre Baume A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe: Pierre Baume (RIPE NCC) - agenda bashing http://www.kessens.com/~david/presentations/ (David Kessens) Agenda point D below dropped. B. Status of the 6bone http://www.kessens.com/~david/presentations/ (David Kessens) - no new 6bone addresses will be allocated from 1/1/2004. - allocated 6bone addresses will not be valid anymore after 6/6/2006 C. Reports from the IETF - multi6 working group summary missing url (Kurt Erik Lindqvist) Illjitsch van Beijnum: Who else is on the design team(s)? David Kessens: I will send the names I have to the list. D. Update on ttm progress (Henk Uijterwaal) Dropped from agenda. E. Global IPv6 routing table status - Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/R46-v6-table/ http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/R46-v6-table.pdf - IPv6 routing table anomalies http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ (Jeroen Massar) F. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) Nothing to report. G. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) - RENATER's IPv6 activity missing url (Bernard Tuy) Geza Turchanyi: What is the presentation's URL? Bernard Tuy: Visit http://www.m6bone.net/. H. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) None. Z. AOB None. Action (for Everybody) - Read the Activity Plan 2004 and tell the RIPE NCC/Board what you want! ----

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RE: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast
by matthew.ford＠bt.com 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

Thanks for helping Jeroen. My problems were entirely firewall related. Sorry for bothering you all. Mat > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:jeroen@unfix.org] > Sent: 04 September 2003 00:48 > To: Ford,M,Mat,XGH5 FORDM5 R; ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > Cc: ripecast(a)ripe.net > Subject: RE: [ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > matthew.ford(a)bt.com wrote: > > > OK, so now all links from > > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/webcast.html are > not working > > for me. The IPv6 link appears to connect but bombs out while > > 'buffering'. Is anyone succesfully connected at the moment? > > Currently (01:42 CET/Amsterdam time) there are no broadcasts thus > one can't watch them either. The archives (bottom of the page) > work, at least the IPv6-wg one did with Windows Mediaplayer 9 over > my home DSL line. I haven't tested the live feeds but I understood > from Jakub Vlasek (.cz) that he had quite a clear live feed there...

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RE: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast
by matthew.ford＠bt.com 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

OK, so now all links from http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/webcast.html are not working for me. The IPv6 link appears to connect but bombs out while 'buffering'. Is anyone succesfully connected at the moment? Mat > -----Original Message----- > From: matthew.ford(a)bt.com [mailto:matthew.ford@bt.com] > Sent: 02 September 2003 15:38 > To: cfriacas(a)fccn.pt; ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > Cc: ripecast(a)ripe.net > Subject: RE: [ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast > > > this is funny - the only server that works for me is the ipv6 > server :-) > > mat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carlos Friacas [mailto:cfriacas@fccn.pt] > > Sent: 02 September 2003 14:30 > > To: ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > > Cc: ripecast(a)ripe.net > > Subject: [ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I've noticed today that CEZNET is providing a streaming > > server (RIPE-46 > > sessions) with IPv6: > > > > + server6.streaming.cesnet.cz > > + 2001:718:1:7:230:48ff:fe42:30de > > + traceroute6 is OK from here (11 hops) > > + ping6 is OK from here (55 avg rtt) > > > > However, im failing to see the session using version 9.00.00.3008 of > > MediaPlayer and VideoLan 0.5.2 under WinXP (and it works fine > > on the v4 > > streaming servers with both clients...) > > > > Has anybody tried this v6 server? Can anybody give me an > hint on this? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > > > ./Carlos "Upgrade the > > Internet! -- Now!" > > -------------- [http://www.ip6.fccn.pt] > > http://www.fccn.pt > > <cfriacas(a)fccn.pt>, CMF8-RIPE, CF596-ARIN, > > Wide Area Network Workgroup > > FCCN - Fundacao para a Computacao Cientifica Nacional > > fax:+351 218472167 > > > > "Internet is just routes (125953/461), naming (millions) > > and... people!" > > > > > >

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RE: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast
by matthew.ford＠bt.com 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

this is funny - the only server that works for me is the ipv6 server :-) mat > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos Friacas [mailto:cfriacas@fccn.pt] > Sent: 02 September 2003 14:30 > To: ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > Cc: ripecast(a)ripe.net > Subject: [ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast > > > > Hello, > > I've noticed today that CEZNET is providing a streaming > server (RIPE-46 > sessions) with IPv6: > > + server6.streaming.cesnet.cz > + 2001:718:1:7:230:48ff:fe42:30de > + traceroute6 is OK from here (11 hops) > + ping6 is OK from here (55 avg rtt) > > However, im failing to see the session using version 9.00.00.3008 of > MediaPlayer and VideoLan 0.5.2 under WinXP (and it works fine > on the v4 > streaming servers with both clients...) > > Has anybody tried this v6 server? Can anybody give me an hint on this? > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > > ./Carlos "Upgrade the > Internet! -- Now!" > -------------- [http://www.ip6.fccn.pt] > http://www.fccn.pt > <cfriacas(a)fccn.pt>, CMF8-RIPE, CF596-ARIN, > Wide Area Network Workgroup > FCCN - Fundacao para a Computacao Cientifica Nacional > fax:+351 218472167 > > "Internet is just routes (125953/461), naming (millions) > and... people!" > >

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] IPv6 Webcast
by Carlos Friacas 02 Sep '03

02 Sep '03

Hello, I've noticed today that CEZNET is providing a streaming server (RIPE-46 sessions) with IPv6: + server6.streaming.cesnet.cz + 2001:718:1:7:230:48ff:fe42:30de + traceroute6 is OK from here (11 hops) + ping6 is OK from here (55 avg rtt) However, im failing to see the session using version 9.00.00.3008 of MediaPlayer and VideoLan 0.5.2 under WinXP (and it works fine on the v4 streaming servers with both clients...) Has anybody tried this v6 server? Can anybody give me an hint on this? Thanks in advance. Regards, ./Carlos "Upgrade the Internet! -- Now!" -------------- [http://www.ip6.fccn.pt] http://www.fccn.pt <cfriacas(a)fccn.pt>, CMF8-RIPE, CF596-ARIN, Wide Area Network Workgroup FCCN - Fundacao para a Computacao Cientifica Nacional fax:+351 218472167 "Internet is just routes (125953/461), naming (millions) and... people!"

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Agenda for ipv6 wg RIPE46
by David Kessens 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Hi, Below follows the agenda for the ipv6 wg for RIPE46. We still have some time left in the agenda so I will be accepting last minute additions. Thanks, David K. --- Agenda for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE46 When: 16:00 - 17:30, Wednesday September 3, 2003 Where: Grand Ballroom, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing (David Kessens) B. Status of the 6bone (David Kessens) C. Reports from the IETF - multi6 working group summary (Kurt Erik Lindqvist) D. Update on ttm progress (Henk Uijterwaal) E. Global IPv6 routing table status - Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) - IPv6 routing table anomalies http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ (Jeroen Massar) F. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) G. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) H. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) Z. AOB ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Re: [db-wg] Whois IPv6 proxy status (was RIPE Whois Server version 3.2.0)
by Shane Kerr 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

Gert, Gert Doering wrote: > > as there have been some IPv6 problems again today (connections over IPv6 > were greeted with "permission denied"): what's the current state of IPv6 > integration into the RIPE Whois server? Is it still done via Proxy, or > is it properly integrated now? Thanks for reporting the problem. We noticed it ourselves, and are looking into it. Looks like a mismatch of the configuration of our secondary server during an upgrade caused the problem. We're looking into fixing that now. As for the state of IPv6 integration... We are still using the proxy. We continue to get about 10000 WHOIS queries per day on IPv6, with the majority coming from a small number of addresses (about 0.5% of our queries). I haven't done any further analysis since the last RIPE meeting (RIPE 45): http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-45/presentations/ripe45-db-whoisdb-u… I'd like to emphasize that the reason we chose to use a proxy is *not* because it was easier or faster to implement, or because we wanted to understand the technology better. I talked a bit about the reasons in the presentation I gave at RIPE 44 when we introduced the proxy: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/archive/ripe-44/presentations/ripe44-ipv6… The main point is that we currently use client IP address to limit the amount of personal data that a user can query. This does not make sense in the IPv6 universe. While using client IP to identify users is imperfect in an IPv4 world, it is even less meaningful in the IPv6 world. We simply don't know how to protect the privacy of our users in the IPv6 world! The main motivation for the proxy was to study access behaviour and how, if at all, we can effectively protect user's privacy. From the user point of view, the proxy should be identical to a "native" server. When we fix our config, it transparent again! One possibility that may address the client-identification issue is to move to a protocol that supports client authentication. The CRISP protocol, currently in discussion in the IETF, promises to offer such a feature. It is intended to be something that serves the same function as WHOIS, while fixing many of the limitations. http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/crisp-charter.html As I mentioned in the past, I am very eager to hear suggestions on how to deal with the privacy issue in IPv6! Any real-world experience from IPv6 operators or developers would be appreciated. We do have several months of logs now, so we can do some data mining to check theories. -- Shane Kerr RIPE NCC

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