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Re: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] New IPv6 Address Block Allocated to RIPE NCC
by Gert Doering 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

Hi, On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:33:41AM -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 02:18:01PM +0200, leo vegoda wrote: > > > The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2001:4000::/23 > > > from the IANA in June 2004. > > Unbelievable. Morons. > Why? Because man-months of argueing that "/23 allocations are needlessly fragmenting the RIR address blocks, please allocate a decent size (like a /8)" are just plainly ignored by the ICANN folks. See the RIPE-IPv6 mailing list archives. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 60210 (58081) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster(a)Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Guidelines for ISPs on IPv6 Assignment to Customers
by JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

Hi all, I guess this is interesting for this group ... Guidelines for ISPs on IPv6 Assignment to Customers (http://www.ist-ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6…) I drafted this document during the last RIPE meeting and asked for inputs, but nothing .... Inputs still welcome ! Regards, Jordi ********************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited.

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] New IPv6 Address Block Allocated to RIPE NCC
by leo vegoda 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2001:4000::/23 from the IANA in June 2004. You may wish to adjust any filters you have in place accordingly. More information on the IP space administered by the RIPE NCC can be found on our web site at: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/smallest-alloc-sizes.html> Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] ICANN Board to implement IPv6 in root servers
by JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 31 May '04

31 May '04

http://www.ist-ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=5… ********************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited.

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] RIRs and IPv6 Groups Pledge Support of Global IPv6 Deployment
by Paul Rendek 12 May '04

12 May '04

Dear Colleagues, The RIRs, the IPv6 Task Forces, and the IPv6 Forum have issued a joint press release detailing co-operative efforts in support of global IPv6 deployment. The press release is available on the RIPE NCC website at: http://www.ripe.net/ipv6/ipv6-support-20040512.html Regards, Paul Rendek Head of Member Services and Communications RIPE NCC

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] The Regional Internet Registries, IPv6 Task Forces and IPv6 Forum Pledge Co-operative Support of Global IPv6 Deployment and new big allocation to TeliaSonera
by JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 12 May '04

12 May '04

Not sure why this email doesn't go thru, just trying again ... Hi all, See below my previous email to other exploders. I believe is specially important for this WG to provide inputs regarding concrete actions, so please, repeating myself, let me know !. Also, the slides regarding the big allocations had been updated with the last week Telia inputs (published only since today with their consent). By the way, in case you aren't aware of, the site http://www.ist-ipv6.org publish news (as many as we can) about IPv6, you can register there to receive a weekly update also. Regards, Jordi *** Hi all, Please, see the very recent news below. Regarding the cooperation with the RIRs, it will be helpful to get ideas and inputs from all the involved communities in order to concrete actions, so let me know ! Regional Internet Registries, IPv6 Task Forces and IPv6 Forum Pledge Cooperative Support of Global IPv6 Deployment http://www.ist-ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=5… TeliaSonera receives /20, the bigger IPv6 block up to now http://www.ist-ipv6.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=5… Regards, Jordi ********************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited.

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] RE: [6bone] /20 allocated - update your BGP filters!
by Jason Everard 12 May '04

12 May '04

Hi Gert, Having lived in Europe for most of my life, EU is not a country, rather a collection of countries. I'm not sure if it is just standard practice to list the European country under "EU", but wouldn't it be better to have "ES" for Espania? Just being picky. Kind regards, Jason Everard SANS Certified, CISSP, CCIE Security Senior Technical Consultant Network & Security Design Telecom Advanced Solutions Telecom New Zealand Tel: +64-9-363-3002 ext: 93002 Mobile: +64-27-478-3931 -----Original Message----- From: 6bone-bounces(a)mailman.isi.edu [mailto:6bone-bounces@mailman.isi.edu] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2004 3:57 a.m. To: 6bone(a)ISI.EDU; ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: [6bone] /20 allocated - update your BGP filters! Hi, the first IPv6 /20 allocation ever has been made today: inet6num: 2001:2000::/20 netname: EU-TELIANET-20040510 org: ORG-TIC2-RIPE descr: PROVIDER Local Registry descr: TeliaSonera AB country: EU and this means that "if you have been following my filtering recommendations, this network will not be accepted right now" (the current filters had a minimum accepted prefix length of a /24). I have updated the prefix filter recommendation page: http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html and urge you to check whether your filters are prepared for these large prefixes. (There is a /23 upcoming, and rumors speak of a /19 being requested "real soon now"). TODO: the "strict" filter could do some grouping for different IPv6 allocation ranges, but this is dangerous today, as we don't know how future allocations will look like. Note: ICANN just doesn't get it. They have not allocated a reasonable prefix size to RIPE (like a /8), not even a /19, but "a big chunk of 14 sucessive /23s, summing up to a /20+/21+/22" - see the list at http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments Gert Doering -- RIPE Address Policy WG Co-Chair, keeper of the IPv6 filter list -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 60210 (58081) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster(a)Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299 _______________________________________________ 6bone mailing list 6bone(a)mailman.isi.edu http://mailman.isi.edu/mailman/listinfo/6bone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] [ginny@arin.net: [arin-announce] ARIN Offers Expanded IPv6 Network Services]
by David Kessens 12 May '04

12 May '04

----- Forwarded message from Ginny Listman <ginny(a)arin.net> ----- Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:29:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Ginny Listman <ginny(a)arin.net> To: arin-announce(a)arin.net Subject: [arin-announce] ARIN Offers Expanded IPv6 Network Services ARIN announces further introduction of its IPv6 network services. These services include DNS, FTP, HTTP and WHOIS via port 80. Additional services, such as WHOIS via port 43 and HTTPS will be added in the future. Details of some of the v6 implementation issues ARIN encountered will be presented during a panel discussion at the upcoming NANOG 31 meeting. Please feel free to contact me at ginny(a)arin.net if you have any questions. Regards, Ginny Listman Director of Engineering American Registry for Internet Numbers ----- End forwarded message -----

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] /20 allocated - update your BGP filters!
by Gert Doering 10 May '04

10 May '04

Hi, the first IPv6 /20 allocation ever has been made today: inet6num: 2001:2000::/20 netname: EU-TELIANET-20040510 org: ORG-TIC2-RIPE descr: PROVIDER Local Registry descr: TeliaSonera AB country: EU and this means that "if you have been following my filtering recommendations, this network will not be accepted right now" (the current filters had a minimum accepted prefix length of a /24). I have updated the prefix filter recommendation page: http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html and urge you to check whether your filters are prepared for these large prefixes. (There is a /23 upcoming, and rumors speak of a /19 being requested "real soon now"). TODO: the "strict" filter could do some grouping for different IPv6 allocation ranges, but this is dangerous today, as we don't know how future allocations will look like. Note: ICANN just doesn't get it. They have not allocated a reasonable prefix size to RIPE (like a /8), not even a /19, but "a big chunk of 14 sucessive /23s, summing up to a /20+/21+/22" - see the list at http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments Gert Doering -- RIPE Address Policy WG Co-Chair, keeper of the IPv6 filter list -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 60210 (58081) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster(a)Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Agenda for ipv6 wg RIPE48 (update 2)
by David Kessens 05 May '04

05 May '04

Hi, Below follows an updated agenda (update 2) for the ipv6 wg for RIPE48. Thanks, David Kessens --- Updated agenda (update 2) for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE48 When: 14:00 - 18:00, Wednesday May 5, 2004 Where: Grand Ballroom, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing (David Kessens) B. Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) C. "per country view" about IPv6 allocation on the RIPE/NCC http://www.ip6.fccn.pt/v6top.html (Carlos Friacas) D. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) E. Raising RPSLng Awareness (Carlos Friacas, Simon Leinen and Joao Damas) F. Discussion of: http://ip6.de.easynet.net/ipv6-minimum-peering.txt -- break -- G. IETF multi6 update (Kurtis Erik Lindqvist) H. Latest IPv6 Land Speed Record (Edoardo Martelli) (we might cover this topic before the break) I. What are the deployment plans behind the larger ipv6 allocations ? (Jordi Palet Martinez for Vodafoon) J. IPv6 home automation (Jordi Palet Martinez) K. (brief) update from the RIPE NCC on ipv6 enabled services (Andrei Robachevsky) L. IPv6 network management (IETF MIBs status, NetFlow v9, SNMPv6, and monitoring tools are the agenda items). (Bernard Tuy) M. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) N. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) Z. AOB ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Actual IPv6 traffic
by Iljitsch van Beijnum 04 May '04

04 May '04

From the agenda: > C. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? > *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? > (input from the audience) My input in advance: I've been running some web measurements using a small image that can be linked on web pages to see whether the visitors are v6-capable or not. (The host that has the image has an IPv6 address and notes whether the image is requested over v4 or v6.) The results over the past months: Site IPv4 IPv6 Total 0 151 ( 98.05%) 3 ( 1.95%) 154 3 334 ( 94.35%) 20 ( 5.65%) 354 6 1355 ( 82.02%) 297 ( 17.98%) 1652 7 57 ( 75.00%) 19 ( 25.00%) 76 8 20107 ( 99.85%) 31 ( 0.15%) 20138 10 2918 ( 84.43%) 538 ( 15.57%) 3456 Totals 24925 ( 96.49%) 908 ( 3.51%) 25833 Note that the numbers refer to different sites with very different usage and IPv6 interest levels. Only number 8 is a very mainstream non-networking site (in Dutch) so I think this one represents average IPv6 capability for the web surfing public fairly well, at around 1 user in 666 requesting the counter image over IPv6. :-) See http://www.muada.com/ to see the counter in action and for a link to the results page. (BTW, it would help if someone would type sysctl -w net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1 on router.ripemtg.ripe.net, or, failing that, kill the rtadvd.)

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Agenda for ipv6 wg RIPE48 (updated)
by David Kessens 03 May '04

03 May '04

Below follows an updated agenda for the ipv6 wg for RIPE48. I managed to find a a volunteer for: What are the deployment plans behind the larger ipv6 allocations? (more volunteers are welcome) I also changed the scheduling to accomodate some of our speakers. We probably still have some time left so I will allow last minute additions to the agenda. Please read: http://ip6.de.easynet.net/ipv6-minimum-peering.txt so we can discuss this document. Thanks, David Kessens --- Updated agenda for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE48 When: 14:00 - 18:00, Wednesday May 5, 2004 Where: Grand Ballroom, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing (David Kessens) B. Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) C. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) D. Raising RPSLng awareness (Carlos Friacas, Simon Leinen and Joao Damas) E. Discussion of: http://ip6.de.easynet.net/ipv6-minimum-peering.txt -- break -- G. Latest IPv6 Land Speed Record (Edoardo Martelli) (we might cover this topic before the break) H. What are the deployment plans behind the larger ipv6 allocations ? (Jordi Palet Martinez for Vodafoon) I. IPv6 home automation (Jordi Palet Martinez) J. (brief) update from the RIPE NCC on ipv6 enabled services (tentative) K. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) L. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) Z. AOB ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Agenda for ipv6 working group RIPE48
by David Kessens 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Below follows the agenda for the ipv6 wg for RIPE48. As you can see, we have a long agenda slot this time since we got many comments from people that we need more time. As a result, we still have some time left so I will accept last minute additions to the agenda. I have not found any volunteers for one proposed agenda item: What are the deployment plans behind the larger ipv6 allocations? I would very much welcome presentations from the receivers of such space on what their plans are on what they will do with this address space. Please let me know if you can help out or happen to know somebody who can help. Thanks, David Kessens --- Agenda for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE48 When: 14:00 - 18:00, Wednesday May 5, 2004 Where: Grand Ballroom, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing (David Kessens) B. Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) C. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) D. What are the deployment plans behind the larger ipv6 allocations ? (looking for speakers) E. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) F. Latest IPv6 Land Speed Record (Edoardo Martelli) G. Raising RPSLng Awareness (Carlos Friacas, Simon Leinen and Joao Damas) -- break -- H. IPv6 home automation (Jordi Palet Martinez) I. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) Z. AOB ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Call for agenda items & draft agenda (v1) for ipv6 wg RIPE48
by David Kessens 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

Below follows the draft agenda (v1) for the ipv6 wg for RIPE48. As you can see, we have a long agenda slot this time since we got many comments from people that we needed more time. Please contact me if you would like to propose any agenda items. I would like to draw your attention to one proposed agenda item: What are the deployment plans behind the larger ipv6 allocations? More recently, we have seen several ipv6 allocations that are larger than the minimum size. I would very much welcome presentations from the receivers of such space on what their plans are on what they will do with this address space. Thanks, David Kessens --- Draft Agenda (v1) for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE48 When: 14:00 - 18:00, Wednesday May 5, 2004 Where: Grand Ballroom, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing (David Kessens) B. Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) C. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) D. What are the deployment plans behind the larger ipv6 allocations ? (looking for speakers) E. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) F. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) Z. AOB ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Configuration in IP networks
by Savitha Kumar 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

Hi, I was wondering about how nodes (hosts/routers) configures in an IP network. Do they use NMS or EMS to do this? I was also thinking about how all this would be done for IPv6 networks. Especially in the context that it supports auto-configuration. If anybody knows anything about this, can you please share your thoughts? Thanks a lot! Savitha ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] IPv6 traffic measurement
by Savitha Kumar 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

Hi, Is there any activity going on to measure IPv6 traffic? If anybody is working on it, can you please share what tools are you using? I'm basically looking for an accounting tool which could recognize IPv6 packets and addresses. I got this tool called NeTraMet. Does anybody has any experience in using this tool for IPv6? Thanks, Savitha ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html

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RE: [ipv6-wg@ripe.net] IPv6 traffic measurement
by matthew.ford＠bt.com 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Note that this document doesn't mention ntop (www.ntop.org) which now supports IPv6 in CVS and can be used as an open-source alternative to Cisco's netflow. Mat > -----Original Message----- > From: ipv6-wg-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ipv6-wg-admin@ripe.net] > On Behalf Of Tim Chown > Sent: 09 March 2004 07:53 > To: ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: [ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net] IPv6 traffic measurement > > Hi, > > Have a look at this 6NET project document: > > http://www.6net.org/publications/deliverables/D6.2.3v2.pdf > > Tim > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 05:09:03AM +0000, Savitha Kumar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there any activity going on to measure IPv6 traffic? If > anybody is > > working on it, can you please share what tools are you using? > > > > I'm basically looking for an accounting tool which could recognize > > IPv6 packets and addresses. > > > > I got this tool called NeTraMet. Does anybody has any experience in > > using this tool for IPv6? > > > > Thanks, > > Savitha > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __ Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best > policies, > > services, tools and more. > > Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html > >

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Apologises
by Bernard Tuy 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

====BT: David and all, Since a couple of people were surpised to see me at the meeting although I didn't show up in the ipv6 wg, I feel I have to give some explanations. My yesterday morning flight was cancelled and I had to book for another one 3 hours later. Then when the ipv6 wg meets I was about to land in Schipol airport.... It seems that in some european countries 5 cm of snow is enough to completely mess airway traffic. I'm pretty sure it must appear weird to people from countries where most of the airports are under the snow several months a year ... but that's it. So sorry not to be able to attend the meeting since I'd have like to be able to hear lot of intersting topics schedulded on the agenda and to have the possibility to present what I'd prepared. The consolation is I probably wouldn't have been able to fit my 26 slides in 10-15 mn. So may I require a half an hour slot for the next meeting in May ? See you on the mailing list -or at Krasnapolski until friday noon... Cheers, +Bernard T.

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Minutes for the ipv6 wg session RIPE46
by David Kessens 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Hi, We didn't receive any comments on the minutes in the comment period so the draft minutes (v1) are now declared final. Please see below for the minutes of the ipv6 wg session at RIPE46. I hope this helps, David K. --- Minutes for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE46 When: 16:00 - 17:30, Wednesday September 3, 2003 Where: Grand Ballroom, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam Who: Chair: David Kessens Scribe: Pierre Baume A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe: Pierre Baume (RIPE NCC) - agenda bashing http://www.kessens.com/~david/presentations/ (David Kessens) Agenda point D below dropped. B. Status of the 6bone http://www.kessens.com/~david/presentations/ (David Kessens) - no new 6bone addresses will be allocated from 1/1/2004. - allocated 6bone addresses will not be valid anymore after 6/6/2006 C. Reports from the IETF - multi6 working group summary (Kurt Erik Lindqvist) Illjitsch van Beijnum: Who else is on the design team(s)? David Kessens: I will send the names I have to the list. D. Update on ttm progress (Henk Uijterwaal) Dropped from agenda. E. Global IPv6 routing table status - Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/R46-v6-table/ http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/R46-v6-table.pdf - IPv6 routing table anomalies http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ (Jeroen Massar) F. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) Nothing to report. G. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) - RENATER's IPv6 activity (Bernard Tuy) Geza Turchanyi: What is the presentation's URL? Bernard Tuy: Visit http://www.m6bone.net/. H. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) None. Z. AOB None. ----

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Minutes for the ipv6 wg session RIPE45
by David Kessens 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Hi, We didn't receive any comments on the minutes in the comment period so the draft minutes (v1) are now declared final. Please see below for the minutes of the ipv6 session at RIPE45. David K. --- Minutes IPv6 Working Group RIPE 45 The IPv6 Working Group session Wednesday 14 May, 16.30 - 18.30 A. Administrative Stuff: Chair (David Kessens, Nokia) Scribe (Timothy Lowe, RIPE NCC) Actions: 44.1 RIPE NCC Enable reverse delegation for the 6bone Andrei: after much discussion, 6bone will do it for themselves. #Action point closed# 44.2 Bernard Tuy To co-ordinate an IPv6 routing guideline document Discussion ongoing with Marc Blanchet (Hexago) for more comprehensive document. David: this point is being passed to the routing working group. #Action point closed# 44.3 RIPE NCC To investigate with IANA increasing the size of RIR allocations to rationalize routing David: discussion has begun between the parties so we can close this one. Gert Doering (Spacenet): I see at least 3 /23s being delegated in the interim and this is a shame. David: it is a bit tech and a bit policy so I this might need to go to the LIR working group. John Crain: ICANN There are discussions concerning this with the RIRs about a temporary solution. #action point closed#, discussion moved to policy working group 44.4 RIPE NCC Report back to the working group what the status is and what the issues are regarding: - enabling AAAA glue records in the . zone - AAAA glue records for delegations to TLDs - AAAA glue records for the root servers themselves, enabling ipv6 transport to the . zone John: AAAA in the root there are possible issues with too many AAAA records into the root zone. In the lab we are building a root zone with lots of AAAA queries to prove it is safe. We don't believe there will be any issues but we have some requests for this so we have to come back with proof that it is stable before going ahead. The Root server advisory committee will be asked to approve this before the summer. Mohsen Souissi (AFNIC): The request for comments document from IANA was run by myself and I sent IANA my comments. We have no issues for .fr with AAAA glue records under the root zone. Mr Vixie was asked to comment and had no technical issues. We have been waiting for a long time. John: yes I saw that and according to his draft not RFC but draft it has no issues but we have to ensure that it doesn't just work for .fr but for everyone. Also we have had little comment on his draft and no other tech tests of this. However we see that it is a good idea and we want to have this implemented as soon as possible. David: Who needs to sign off on this? John: inet clue elite David: good, it's not lost in the department of commerce. John: No we just have to present solid evidence to the Department of Commerce so they can approve Andrei:we tried to research this by asking Verisign what registrars support AAAA records. They said they don't know. Fortunately our registrar did it and we found that it was only blocked at the root zone. We wanted to change our registrar but the new one had no interest in doing AAAA dns. David: I think others have the same problem can you make public who is willing to do it? Lars-Johan Liman: can we see a way of changing the name on the right hand side of the ns delegation so that it doesn't conflict with the ns.ripe.net. Like ns6.ripe.net (we already have this see www.ripe.net/reverse) Andrei:I agree we should look into this but it was just to clarify that it should be looked into. David: this a DNS issue so we should pass it to them. Ok we should keep action open so we can hear about progress in this area? Good we keep it. B. Status of the 6bone http://www.kessens.com/~david/presentations/ (David Kessens) 6bone registry is now reachable over v6 in all aspects. Draft phase out plan of the addresses has been proposed. The cut off date for allocating ptlas is 20040101 and the date of phase out is 20060606. Some stats are 60 countries with ptlas in the 6bone C. University of Tennessee IPv6 network storage stack http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-45/presentations/ ripe45-ipv6-logistic.pdf (Alessandro Bassi - LoCI - Univ of Tennessee) Logistical networking, which is based on distributed network storage, is a project of the UTK Logistical Computing and Internetworking Lab. The LoCI Lab website: http://loci.cs.utk.edu/ D. Global IPv6 routing table status http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-45/presentations/ ripe45-ipv6-table/ (Gert Doering) Slide 12: Kurtis Lindqvist, Netnod: Can you track which blocks are allocated and which are routed? Also the delay between when the allocation was made and when it was first routed? Gert: My scripts don't do it but I can do that. I will look into it but no promises. Mohsen: Tunis isn't in Europe (refers to slide 15) Gert: sure but its around the mediteranian so around the corner sort of Europe. E. Report(s) about actual v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-45/presentations/ ripe45-tt-ipv6/page1.htm (Henk Uijterwaal, RIPE NCC) The test traffic project is now also able to measure the ipv6 Internet. F. Developments/initiatives in the RIPE region and beyond -Presentation (Bernard Tuy, RENATER) Geant IPv6 service M6bone worldwide deployment and multicast protocols for IPv6 6Net and on going IPv6 experiments G. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (No input from the audience) Z. AOB -----

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Agenda ipv6 wg RIPE47
by David Kessens 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Hi, Below follows the agenda for the ipv6 wg for RIPE47. Note that we are meeting on tuesday instead of the usual wednesday slot. We occasionally change meeting time/date in order to make sure that we are not always scheduled with the same working group so that people who are interested in the other working group have a chance to go to that session for a change. Thanks & see you all on tuesday, David Kessens --- Agenda for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE47 When: 14:00 - 15:30, Tuesday January 27, 2004 Where: St Johns II, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing (David Kessens) B. Ranges of ipv6 addresses and their use (Jeroen Massar) C. Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) D. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) - Tunnel Detection Tool (Lorenzo Colitti, RIPE NCC, TTM project) - IPv6 Network Management (Bernard Tuy) E. Operational issues with IPv6: RPSLng testing, policy issues, filtering practices, peering (Simon Leinen, Swiss IPv6 task force & swiss IPv6 operations group) F. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) - latest IPv6 Land Speed Record (Edoardo Martelli, CERN, time allowing) G. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) Z. AOB ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] New IPv6 Address Block Allocated to RIPE NCC
by leo vegoda 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC received the IPv6 address range 2001:1A00::/23 from the IANA in January 2004. You may wish to adjust any filters you have in place accordingly. More information on the IP space administered by the RIPE NCC can be found on our web site at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/smallest-alloc-sizes.html> Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] FW: New IPv6 Allocation (2001:1a00::/23)
by Jeroen Massar 10 Jan '04

10 Jan '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- FYI, please adjust filters etc if you have set them. Reference filter set: http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html Greets, Jeroen - -----Original Message----- From: Steve Conte [conte(a)iana.org] Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:47 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: New IPv6 Allocation Greetings, This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated 2001:1A00::/23 to the RIPE NCC. For a full list of IANA IPv6 allocations please see: <http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-tla-assignments>. Thanks, Steve - --------------- Steve Conte - IANA conte(a)iana.org PGP KeyID: 0x0972C473 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Unfix PGP for Outlook Alpha 13 Int. Comment: Jeroen Massar / http://unfix.org/~jeroen iQA/AwUBP/9TrSmqKFIzPnwjEQK/gQCfaceFBP53zGBUGIqDXd7xkggNhk4An3Q0 li6/dxHnvSZm81DheQYCzRoM =/hGY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] Call for agenda items and Draft Agenda (v1) for ipv6 wg RIPE47
by David Kessens 29 Dec '03

29 Dec '03

Hi, Below follows the draft agenda (v1) for the ipv6 wg for RIPE47. Note that we are meeting on tuesday instead of the usual wednesday slot. We occasionally change meeting time/date in order to make sure that we are not always scheduled with the same working group so that people who are interested in the other working group have a chance to go to that session for a change. I need your help to make the working group session interesting. Please let me know if you have any suggestions for agenda topics that you would like to have covered during the meeting or if you would like to contribute to one of the 'input of the audience' agenda items. Thanks, David K. --- Draft Agenda (v1) for the IPv6 Working Group Meeting RIPE47 When: 14:00 - 15:30, Tuesday January 27, 2004 Where: St Johns II, Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam A. Administrative stuff - appointment of scribe - agenda bashing (David Kessens) B. Ranges of allocated ipv6 addresses and their use (Jeroen Massar) C. Global IPv6 routing table status (Gert Doering) D. Report(s) about *actual* v6 traffic volume as compared to v4? *what's real* out there, not what's on powerpoint? (input from the audience) E. Developments/initiatives regarding IPv6 in the RIPE region and beyond (input from the audience) F. Input for the RIPE NCC Activity Plan (input from the audience) Z. AOB ---

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[ipv6-wg@ripe.net] RE: /48 micro allocations for v6 root servers, was: national security
by Jeroen Massar 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Paul Vixie wrote: > > /35 routes are being discouraged in favor of /32 entries... > > 4,064,000,000 addresses to ensure that just one host -might- > > have global reachability. IMHO, a /48 is even overkill... :) > > i think the important points for ietf@ to know about are (a) that this > is an open issue, (b) that it's generally agreed that all the > RIR's ought to have the same rules regarding microallocations, and (c) > exactly where (as in what working group or mailing list or smoke filled room) the > discussion is being held. for example, bill says above that > "/35 routes are being discouraged" and that's probably true but "by > whom?" and "where?" There are currently quite some ISP's who filter anything >/35. Generally ISP's should be filtering on allocation boundaries. Thus if a certain prefix is allocated as a /32, they should not be accepting anything smaller (/33, /34 etc) Checking http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/tla/all/ 8<------------ The database currently holds 630 IPv6 TLA's. Of which 18 (2.86%) are returned to the pool, 202 (32.06%) IPv6 TLA's didn't have a routing entry. Thus 410 (65.08%) networks are currently announced. 0 (0.00%) only announced a /35 while they have been assigned a /32. 13 (2.06%) announce both their /32 and their /35. - ------------>8 I have to add that there is an error here as 2001:dc0::/35 is in the tables, but doesn't get picked up by the software, will be fixing that soonish. Generally if you announce a /35 it will get through to most ISP's. But we should be avoiding that. Currently the ipv6 global routing table is quite small, but it could grow quite large and when ISP's still don't filter correctly, or better if ISP's don't aggregate it will explode and we will be needing the follow up to BGP soon, which is more work for the IETF :) As for which smoked filled room, this should be a task of the RIRs, thus RIPE's IPv6 WG etc. but it usually takes place when communicating between ISP's. Notice that many ISP's use Gerts list: http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html I would applaud a generic /32 that is 'allowed' to being cut up into multiple /48's for the purpose of critical infrastructure. But please, keep it to 1 *documented* /32. That way people will know that they will see more specifics from that prefix and that they should be accepting it too. Currently the !3! IX blocks (2001:7f8::/32 + 2001:504::/32 + 2001:7fa::/32) are seen being announced in pieces too. Maybe these IX blocks, which are common already could be used for assigning 'critical infra' from? This is a RIR thing and should be discussed there (ipv6-wg cc'd). The IETF though should ofcourse advise in all matters. Greets, Jeroen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Unfix PGP for Outlook Alpha 13 Int. Comment: Jeroen Massar / jeroen(a)unfix.org / http://unfix.org/~jeroen/ iQA/AwUBP9TmwCmqKFIzPnwjEQIk9gCfWIZU0RJA3OGyrbOFTa1+ZIvSDE4AniOW qOqG5k7653xd5LaLSLUAglde =mqwa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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