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RE: [ipv6-wg] IPv6 on P2P links
by Elad Hefetz 26 May '11

26 May '11

The major problem I can assume happen when using only link local is the issue of replacing hardware. When you replace the cards on the routers it will require you to change the internal routing protocol (IS-IS \ OSPF). Another issue is debugging - when using trace route - all you will see is link-local addresses which make it very difficult to debug issues. We are configuring all our P2P links with /64 prefix on each link. This is not idle and very wasteful way, but it's the only solution to not interfere with RFCs and standards. Also - this is the only way to be multi vendors prepared, be ready for future to come with new IPv6 applications and products. MHO, Elad -----Original Message----- From: ipv6-wg-admin(a)ripe.net [mailto:ipv6-wg-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Jasper Jans Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:08 AM To: ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: [ipv6-wg] IPv6 on P2P links Can anyone give me some real world experience with IPv6 numbering on P2P links in their network? I've seen the recommendations swing from '/64' to '/127 if your equipment can handle it' and even to 'do not assign anything at all just use link-local' and access your devices over the loopback which your IGP will distribute. The last option seems interesting to me from a IP assignment point of few. It safes me having to allocate a block for this part of the infrastructure. I'm just wondering if in the long run it will not make life harder. Jasper Op dit e-mailbericht is een disclaimer van toepassing, welke te vinden is op http://www.espritxb.nl/disclaimer

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Announcement: RIPE NCC Training Courses
by Training Mailbox 23 May '11

23 May '11

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC invites you to register for one of our upcoming training courses: - The LIR Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to request Internet number resources and interact with the RIPE NCC. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/courses/lir/outline/ - The Routing Registry Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to use the RIPE Database for routing. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/courses/rr/ - The IPv6 Training Course This course teaches LIRs about the need for IPv6 and includes basic information on how to plan your deployment. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/ipv6/outline.html To see the location of upcoming courses and to register, please use the LIR Portal or complete the registration form on our website at: RIPE NCC Upcoming Courses List & Registration https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at <training(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC

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IPv6 CPE Survey - Initial Results on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 23 May '11

23 May '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, Since we published the IPv6 customer premise equipment (CPE) survey during the RIPE 63 meeting, we received more than 100 responses. This new article on RIPE Labs shows some interesting initial results: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/marco/ipv6-cpe-survey-results-may-2011 The survey is still open. If you are using an IPv6 capable CPE and have not yet filled in the survey, we would like to encourage you to do so. The survey can be found here: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/marco/ipv6-cpe-survey-please-participate Kind Regards, Marco Hogewoning & Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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IPv6 filtering in an ISP environment
by Erik Bais 18 May '11

18 May '11

Hi, I'm looking for examples on what people have implemented as ingress filtering for IPv6 prefixes in an BGP environment. I'm would like to get some sort of filter that will not require daily maintenance based on assigned prefixes by the RIR. I'm leaning towards having some sort of filtering based on: Drop anything from bogon list allow RIR PA space - between /12 - /35 Allow RIR PI space between /32 - /48. (For instance for the RIPE 2001:67c::/32 & 2001:7f8::/32 parts ) So basically, a bit more strict filter than allow 2003::/3 and not having to update it daily with each assignment made J Also some insight in why you have selected to filter on a specific prefix length is very helpful. Erik Bais

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Thought for World IPv6 Day
by Martin Millnert 18 May '11

18 May '11

Hi, I'm thinking that in order for maximizing productive yield of World IPv6 Day as IPv6-believers would like, laying out the relevant steps to take for ISPs, content providers and individual users in a pedagogical manner could be cool (i.e highly useful). I'm imagining something similar to what Google did with http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html for Chrome. I have no idea who would be in charge to bring that about, or if it is at all possible to achieve in the few days left. I hope others are better suited to answer this. Cheers, Martin

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RIPE NCC Measurements for World IPv6 Day
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 May '11

11 May '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, Please find on RIPE Labs a description of the measurements the RIPE NCC is doing prior to and on World IPv6 Day: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/ripe-ncc-measurements-for-world-ipv6… This is an extended version of the presentation Emile Aben gave in the MAT-WG at RIPE62. Feedback received at the meeting, has been incorporated. Please also note the call for participation for each of the measurements described in the article. If you have any other feedback or questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at labs(a)ripe.net. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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IPv6 RIPEness - One Year later
by Mirjam Kuehne 04 May '11

04 May '11

[apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, A year ago we introduced IPv6 RIPEness - a system that rates IPv6 deployment of Local Internet Registries based on certain criteria. Now, one year later, we were curious to see how the numbers have changed. Please read the update on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/ipv6-ripeness-one-year-later Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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IPv6 theme day on RIPE 62
by Marco Hogewoning 03 May '11

03 May '11

Dear colleagues, For those of you who missed out on the original announcement and who are wondering why we haven't published an agenda yet. The upcoming RIPE Meeting does not have a formal seating of the IPv6 Working Group. Given the amount of content and the current state of affairs, the collective chairs decided to dedicate a full day to the topic. So Tuesday's plenary session will be all about IPv6, covering a broad range of topics. We have talks about the state of the world, overviews of the available transitioning techniques and various presentations from people who already deployed IPv6 in their network. We are still busy with the final details of the agenda and the time schedule, but this is what we already have scheduled: Dynamic IPv4 Address Release - Olaf Bonness Transition Technologies Overview - Marco Hogewoning IPv6 Mobility in Emergency Teams - Jan Žorž RIPE 501 bis - Jan Žorž et al IPv6 Routing Table Update - Gert Döring IPv6 Deployment Real Case - Ragnar Anfinsen (Altibox Norway) IPv6 Issues on AMS-IX Peering LAN - Arien Vijn Deploying IPv6 Without Huge Costs – Case Study IPv6 Geolocation - TBD IPv6 Pending Badge Initiative - INEX IPv6 CPE survey: Initial results - Mirjam Kuehne As stated we are still busy with the final details and some speakers, for the latest updates please refer to the meeting plan at http://ripe62.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/plenary For those who can't make it to Amsterdam, all the sessions will be broadcasted on the Internet and available for remote participation. Details for the webcast will be posted on http://ripe62.ripe.net, session will start at 09:00 CEST. For those coming to the meeting, save travels and see you next week, The IPv6 Working Group co-chairs. Marco, Shane and David Grtx, MarcoH

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Announcement: New IPv6 information videos available now
by Nathalie Trenaman 28 Apr '11

28 Apr '11

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC is pleased to announce the launch of four new information videos on real-life IPv6 deployment experiences. The following videos are now available in the RIPE NCC's E-Learning Centre at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/ipv6 - Jan Žorž talks about "Mobile IPv6" - Tore Anderson gives an overview on "IPv6 and Content Providers" - Nuno Viera talks about "IPv6 in Hosting Environments" - Teun Vink is interviewed about "IPv6 and ISPs" The RIPE NCC E-Learning Centre is free and available to everyone. If you have any questions about this, please contact us at <e-learning(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Nathalie Trenaman Trainer RIPE NCC

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New IPv6 survey released on labs.ripe.net
by Marco Hogewoning 27 Apr '11

27 Apr '11

Hi There, We just released a new version of the IPv6 CPE survey. After lots of feedback on the previous editions, we are now doing a "proper" survey. Based on the responses we receive in this survey we will be able to compile a new edition of our matrix and provide some more statistical background on what is happening in the market. Remember we are totally depending on your feedback to continue this work. The more responses we receive, the easier it gets for us to provide regular updates on which CPE are available on the market and how good they are. So if you have an IPv6 capable router or modem in your house, or you are busy testing them. Please take the time to fill out the survey and help other people to find the device that fits their need. Please see https://labs.ripe.net/Members/marco/ipv6-cpe-survey-please-participate for further details and a link to the survey. Thanks, MarcoH

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