May 2010 - ipv6-wg - mailman.ripe.net

List of IPv6 measurements published on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 22 Jun '10

22 Jun '10

[I am sorry if you receive this more than once.] Dear colleagues, Please see two articles related to IPv6 Measurements recently published on RIPE Labs: 1. A list of IPv6 measurements various people and organisations are doing with a short description and pointers to the actual results of the measurements http://labs.ripe.net/content/ipv6-measurement-compilation 2. An interview with Alain Durand about the IPv6 measurements he is doing at Comcast together with the University of Pennsylvania http://labs.ripe.net/content/ipv6-monitor We would like to get feedback from you about the measurements presented. How would you chose to measure the growing deployment of IPv6? Have you set criteria for when you will deploy IPv6? Let us know what information and analysis would be helpful to assist you in the deployment of IPv6. And would measurements influence your decision to deploy IPv6 or not? Please go to the forum at http://labs.ripe.net/node/ipv6-measurements or contact me directly at labs(a)ripe.net. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Announcement: RIPE NCC Training Courses
by Training 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC invites you to register for one of our upcoming training courses: - The LIR Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to request Internet number resources and interact with the RIPE NCC. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/lir/outline.html - The Routing Registry Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to use the RIPE Database for routing. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/rr/outline.html - The IPv6 Training Course This course teaches LIRs about the need for IPv6 and includes basic information on how to plan your deployment. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/ipv6/outline.html To see the location of upcoming courses and to register, please use the LIR Portal or complete the registration form on our website at: RIPE NCC Upcoming Courses List & Registration https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at <training(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC

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"IPv6 Ripeness" measurements on RIPE Labs
by Mirjam Kuehne 02 Jun '10

02 Jun '10

Dear colleagues, We looked at the "IPv6 ripeness" of all LIRs in the RIPE NCC service region. This was initially created to adjust our IPv6 training course depending on the country we are in. However, we felt this might also be valuable in a bigger context. Please find the results and methodology on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/content/ipv6-ripeness We would be interested to hear what you think about this idea in general and if you have any suggestions on how to modify or improve this. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE NCC

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Address space analysis
by Peter van Eijk 25 May '10

25 May '10

Hello all, You might be interested in my circleid post: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20100524_the_digital_divide_on_ip_addresses/ The version on http://www.petersgriddle.net also has an embedded spreadsheet. Regards Peter van Eijk, +31 6 2268 4939, peter @ digitalinfrastructures.nl

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Today's xkcd
by Shane Kerr 19 May '10

19 May '10

http://xkcd.com/742/ I think I'm going to have nightmares... -- Shane

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test-ipv6.com
by Jason Fesler 14 May '10

14 May '10

Shane Kerr suggested I post this here; that some of you may find it useful. http://test-ipv6.com or http://aaaa.test-ipv6.com The intent of this site is to help the user what it will mean when publishers start publishing dual-stack. When it makes sense, the test will be updated to indicate what the future looks like when publishers are IPv6 only. The dual stack publishing case is an open question that has been discussed between content and access providers. Measurements published by Google indicate a number of users with IPv6 enabled, routes installed, but the connectivity fails. In this situation, from the user's perspective, the site is down, and the user will go to the competitor's site (Still "up", IPv4 only). Followup measurements by other parties (Tore Anderson published some data; I've seen private data by other organizations) confirm the scale of the numbers Google has seen. While content providers will continue to do their own measurements (whether publicly or privately), they won't likely be indicating to the "broken" users what fate they are facing or how to fix it. This is where I hope something like my site can help, in a brand-neutral way. Please review the FAQ; and if you have comments feel free to send them to me. The site will automatically show a survey form if you have results I don't fully understand; if you see it pop up, please fill it out with contact details in case I need to ask more questions. I've seen lots of crazy things so far! Note: This is a side project of mine, not an employer's. As such, resources are limited. Please don't post this to slashdot - I'm not appropriately resourced for it (both for hardware and finances). -- Jason Fesler, email/jabber <jfesler(a)gigo.com> resume: http://jfesler.com "Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

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IPv6 CPEs
by Dez 12 May '10

12 May '10

Following up on Marco's very informative presentation about IPv6 CPEs I was wondering if any of the CPEs mentioned, were tested with 2 ppp sessions (a v4 and a v6 one) at the same time. I know we've tried this setup with the ciscos (87x,88x) and I was curious to find out if other CPEs support that (and how easy it is to configure) and if anyone has tried this setup regards, Yannis

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internal additional IPv4 assignment policy
by Lubos Pinkava 12 May '10

12 May '10

Hello, I've raised an idea concerning additional IPv4 assignments for our customers during RIPE60 beering with quite positive responses, so I would like to share it here and maybe get some additional feedback. We are a company running ISP/collocation business, promoting IPv6 since 2003 and already having substantial amount of IPv6 enabled customers. In our point of view, it's still pretty slow growth. What I indend to propose for our operations - active imediately - is this: - all customers requesting additional /25 (variable) shall have IPv6 assigned and asked for trying it (if not already done before) - all customers requesting additional /24 (variable) must already have active v6 services running (eg. NS/MX/web site for the beginning) There were several other ISP's interested, each of course with own specifics - but in general, we have agreed, that this can speed up IPv6 adoption especially in collocation / infastructure area and can still go through company processes. If there are more people interested, we can create some best practice document backing up our work. Any thoughts on this subject? Lubos Pinkava Casablanca INT s.r.o.

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Re: [ipv6-wg] internal additional IPv4 assignment policy
by Geoffroy RIVAT 06 May '10

06 May '10

Hi, In-Reply-To: <4BE2BAAD.1040906(a)casablanca.cz> Lubos Pinkava wrote: > Hello, > > I've raised an idea concerning additional IPv4 assignments for our > customers during RIPE60 beering with quite positive responses, so I > would like to share it here and maybe get some additional feedback. > > We are a company running ISP/collocation business, promoting IPv6 > since 2003 and already having substantial amount of IPv6 enabled > customers. In our point of view, it's still pretty slow growth. > > What I indend to propose for our operations - active imediately - is this: > > - all customers requesting additional /25 (variable) shall have IPv6 > assigned and asked for trying it (if not already done before) > - all customers requesting additional /24 (variable) must already > have active v6 services running (eg. NS/MX/web site for the > beginning) This is a really good idea, on our network for each customers we have configured IPv6 and try to help them to use it. Our last procedure says to add firewall rules in both v4 and v6 when they ask using the last 2 bytes of the v4 address to map to their v6 address -- Geoffroy Rivat

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