Guy wrote:
Having looked at Maldwyn's excellent diagram, I now "get it".
I think your value of "excellent" may need updating... I used Somewindowssharewaretool + MSPaint + PaintShop but now I've found dia, I wish I'd used that: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/index.html
Yes: I think it looks right. That I can deal with.
Cool.
I especially like the idea of abstracting over the prexisting customer DB, but feel that in far too many cases, leaving it to the LIR to impliment that will be far too hard.
Agreed - I think we should provide a default, simple one.
What I have discovered is that it was easier for Level 3 to clean up the RIPE registry and import that with scripts than to try and convert the old QIP Oracle databse.
Interesting.
(I am still finishing off the scripts; there are several issues. When finished, I shall report back experiences to this list).
Therefore, I think that including a set of scripts with version 1.0, that, _if necessary_ can create a ready to go database in one of the free RDBMS's out of the RIPE Whois database is a good idea.
OK.
That way, WRT migrating the old data; those who can, will and thosew who would have dificulty can fall back on this system, which is still easier that doing all the work themselves.
Sounds like A Good Idea. Thanks for your valuable insight. I think the Top-down "We don't know much about it, but we think it should look like this" and the Bottom-up "We've actually done this, you know" are getting close to meeting in the middle... Cheers, Maldwyn _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Hi all, On Wed, 16 May 2001 13:15:16 +0200 "maldwyn morris" <maldwynm@hotmail.com> wrote:
I especially like the idea of abstracting over the prexisting customer DB, but feel that in far too many cases, leaving it to the LIR to impliment that will be far too hard.
Agreed - I think we should provide a default, simple one.
On this particular point: I don't think we should require LIRs to use a particular Database like MySQL if they are not using it already. A good solution to this would be to use a text database, which doesn't require any deamon running on the machine. I don't think speed is a concern for this project, a text DB could do the job. -- Manuel Valente - Software Manager - RIPE NCC
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:15:16PM +0200, maldwyn morris (maldwynm@hotmail.com) wrote: Re: Re: Oooooh! [...]
What I have discovered is that it was easier for Level 3 to clean up the RIPE registry and import that with scripts than to try and convert the old QIP Oracle databse.
Interesting.
Presumably, one reason for using a nice integrated system is to help LIRs get things right from the start. I'm sure it's to everyone's advantage to avoid making errors to begin with. Nonetheless, any errors (invalid assignments, or whatever) in the RIPE Database will need to be sorted out at some stage. Doing it at the start might be useful as the LIR could then move forwards with a clean slate, so to speak. We (RIPE NCC Hostmasters) can provide help to LIRs cleaning up their database entries. Regards, -- leo vegoda RIPE NCC bloke
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