[BCOP] Adressing Thread & Matter for IoT
Dear collegues, since the IoT WG released it's first BCOP document [1] some time has passed. Several technologies discussed in the document – i.e. DPP, USP – have become mandatory for large carriers and can be found the majority of their roadmaps. The considerations regarding secure onboarding can also be found in works of other researchers and became common ground – I think this document was a good and useful first step, but technologies are evolving and new options and requirements surface. Recent talks with carriers revealed that all intend to increase their efforts in managing IoT devices in their customer's homes or start such efforts. All of them refer to Thread [2] and Matter [3] as the technologies of choice – which makes sense given that at these standards increase compatibility and are backed up by large players like Google, Amazon & Apple. Since Thread is based upon IPv6 it offers new options and possibilities to integrate with existing network infrastructure an standards. Nevetheless it also requires re-evaluation of threats and attack vectors in such networks. I would like to initiate work on a follow-up BCOP document that centers around the changes Thread and Matter do introduce to networks, but that also takes into account our findings that got incorporated into the fist BCOP document this WG has released. Especially the challenges regarding onboarding and security in general remain the same and would be needed to be evaluated in regards to the new technologies. An IPv6 based IoT networking protocol offers also new possibilities for integrating IoT devices into networks and can change the way we look at such networks. This should also be part of such a document. I would like to ask the members of this WG about their opinion about these considerations. And I also want to ask for volunteers to work an such a new BCOP document and would be glad to initiate and manage the process. Sincerely, Peter [1] https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-759 [2] https://openthread.io/guides/thread-primer [3] https://csa-iot.org/all-solutions/matter/ Peter Steinhäuser, CEO embeDD GmbH · Alter Postplatz 2 · 6370 Stans · Switzerland Phone: +41 (41) 784 95 85 · Fax: +41 (41) 784 95 64
Hi Peter, I would be happy to volunteer myself for discussion on this topic. Best, Poonam On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 12:40 PM Peter Steinhäuser <ps@embedd.com> wrote:
Dear collegues,
since the IoT WG released it's first BCOP document [1] some time has passed. Several technologies discussed in the document – i.e. DPP, USP – have become mandatory for large carriers and can be found the majority of their roadmaps. The considerations regarding secure onboarding can also be found in works of other researchers and became common ground – I think this document was a good and useful first step, but technologies are evolving and new options and requirements surface.
Recent talks with carriers revealed that all intend to increase their efforts in managing IoT devices in their customer's homes or start such efforts. All of them refer to Thread [2] and Matter [3] as the technologies of choice – which makes sense given that at these standards increase compatibility and are backed up by large players like Google, Amazon & Apple. Since Thread is based upon IPv6 it offers new options and possibilities to integrate with existing network infrastructure an standards. Nevetheless it also requires re-evaluation of threats and attack vectors in such networks.
I would like to initiate work on a follow-up BCOP document that centers around the changes Thread and Matter do introduce to networks, but that also takes into account our findings that got incorporated into the fist BCOP document this WG has released. Especially the challenges regarding onboarding and security in general remain the same and would be needed to be evaluated in regards to the new technologies.
An IPv6 based IoT networking protocol offers also new possibilities for integrating IoT devices into networks and can change the way we look at such networks. This should also be part of such a document.
I would like to ask the members of this WG about their opinion about these considerations. And I also want to ask for volunteers to work an such a new BCOP document and would be glad to initiate and manage the process.
Sincerely, Peter
[1] https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-759 [2] https://openthread.io/guides/thread-primer [3] https://csa-iot.org/all-solutions/matter/ *Peter Steinhäuser, CEO* embeDD GmbH · Alter Postplatz 2 · 6370 Stans · Switzerland Phone: +41 (41) 784 95 85 · Fax: +41 (41) 784 95 64
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Hi Poonam, thank you so much for your interest in collaborating! So far it seems interest on the mailing list seems to be low and as Michael pointed out it might be a bit too early to start the work. Nevertheless please feel free to respond to the thread on the mailing list and share your thoughts and ideas regarding the topic. Thanks and best regards, Peter
Am 08.03.2023 um 14:12 schrieb Poonam Yadav <poonam.hiwal@gmail.com>:
Hi Peter,
I would be happy to volunteer myself for discussion on this topic.
Best, Poonam
On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 12:40 PM Peter Steinhäuser <ps@embedd.com <mailto:ps@embedd.com>> wrote:
Dear collegues,
since the IoT WG released it's first BCOP document [1] some time has passed. Several technologies discussed in the document – i.e. DPP, USP – have become mandatory for large carriers and can be found the majority of their roadmaps. The considerations regarding secure onboarding can also be found in works of other researchers and became common ground – I think this document was a good and useful first step, but technologies are evolving and new options and requirements surface.
Recent talks with carriers revealed that all intend to increase their efforts in managing IoT devices in their customer's homes or start such efforts. All of them refer to Thread [2] and Matter [3] as the technologies of choice – which makes sense given that at these standards increase compatibility and are backed up by large players like Google, Amazon & Apple. Since Thread is based upon IPv6 it offers new options and possibilities to integrate with existing network infrastructure an standards. Nevetheless it also requires re-evaluation of threats and attack vectors in such networks.
I would like to initiate work on a follow-up BCOP document that centers around the changes Thread and Matter do introduce to networks, but that also takes into account our findings that got incorporated into the fist BCOP document this WG has released. Especially the challenges regarding onboarding and security in general remain the same and would be needed to be evaluated in regards to the new technologies.
An IPv6 based IoT networking protocol offers also new possibilities for integrating IoT devices into networks and can change the way we look at such networks. This should also be part of such a document.
I would like to ask the members of this WG about their opinion about these considerations. And I also want to ask for volunteers to work an such a new BCOP document and would be glad to initiate and manage the process.
Sincerely, Peter
[1] https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-759 [2] https://openthread.io/guides/thread-primer [3] https://csa-iot.org/all-solutions/matter/
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