Hi Jim, all,

We've had ballots lots of times for the ASO AC elections.

This is a very different thing from choosing a WG co-chair and it’s not wise to conflate the two. And yes, I know we vote for the PC too. That’s not the same thing either. Members of the PC and ASO don’t have the influence over RIPE policy-making that a WG co-char has.

To be clear, I raise this only to address the concern about the "monument to process"; it's a simple process that's already proven to be workable elsewhere in the meeting.

I agree that the context is certainly different, and the concern about disenfranchisement is reasonable, so I tried to address it separately in the subsequent paragraphs. To repeat: We should try to reach consensus first, with everyone who wants to participate.

When we're at the point where we have to make a decision in the room, then without a secret ballot, the constituency is effectively those who are willing to speak at the mic. This is ok when deciding about policy. I think it's not ok when deciding about people.

Best regards,
Anna

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