As I think Marco informed everyone NCC signed up for AIOTI. You can get more information on AIOTI here; https://www.aioti.eu I presume AIOTI got, or at least will be well-placed to get, funding from the Commission. But given the membership I would guess that going forward external funding from the Commission and other governments should not that important. More important is perceived political backing and whether they become the “voice of the IoT”. I think though what AIOTI is doing is interesting and indeed important and so I am personally pleased that NCC is involved. But I also think it would be good if there was time in Budapest for NCC to explain what is now expected in this context and for the communty in turn to make it clear what messages they wish to be taken into AIOTI. NCC have tended to be good at telling the community about things like this - outreach, liaisons, MoUs. Maybe though it is becoming even more important that the RIPE community steps up and plays their part in the necessary on-going dialogue. Where should this conversation take place though? The Cooperation WG? A new WG? Does this means the bof should consider an IOT WG? Gordon